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To: GraniteStateConservative
I don't consider what Krauthammer wrote "senseless babble." It's his opinion, and the opinion of many other well-meaning people.

It's just a movie, GSC. Throwing conservative writers overboard because you disagree with them about a movie is just silly.

556 posted on 03/05/2004 8:23:42 AM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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To: sinkspur
Throwing conservative writers overboard because you disagree with them about a movie is just silly.

Throwing a conervative film-maker overboard - - no, worse, implying that he's a hateful antisemite - - is not silly, it's vile. Krauthammer isn't just writing a "movie review," he's hurling vicious accusations about the character and motives of the filmmaker (and indirectly about the nature of the gospels and Christianity). So it's disengenuous of you to suggest this is merely about a movie review and opinions on the artistic merits of a movie.

564 posted on 03/05/2004 8:29:29 AM PST by churchillbuff (?)
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To: sinkspur
Here's another Christian take on The Passion:

THERE’S MORE TO THE STORY

Mel Gibson’s “The Passion of the
Christ” is a horrific depiction
of the ferocious violence of which
humans are capable.
Reminders of the human capacity
for inhumanity are valuable, because
we humans so often forget how near
we live to the edge of cruelty to one
another. But compared with the
Scriptural account, the movie dwells
disproportionately on the violence
and the inhumane behavior of men
who become accustomed to gross
abuse of fellow humans and on the
horrors of mob psychology.
The Gospels proclaim that Christ’s
passion is not simply an example of
the oft-repeated story of man’s inhumanity
to man. Rather, this is the central
act in God’s remedy for all human
evil and sin. “There is no difference,
for all have sinned and fall short of the
glory of God, and are justified freely
by his grace through the redemption
that came by Christ Jesus. God presented
him as a sacrifice of atonement,
through faith in his blood”
(Rom. 3:22–25). Therefore, we must
resist the temptation to identify with
the “good people” in the movie (Mary,
the beloved disciple, Simon), and we
dare not divide humanity into evil
people and good people. Christ died
also for Mary, Simon, you and me.
Just as we are to identify ourselves
as sinners, so we are invited also to
identify ourselves with Christ’s own
death. St. Paul teaches us that the
sinful self in each of us is to die with
Christ: “Or don’t you know that all of
us who were baptized into Christ
Jesus were baptized into his death?
We were therefore buried with him
through baptism into death in order
that, just as Christ was raised from
the dead through the glory of the
Father, we too may live a new life”
(Rom. 6:3–4).
In the Small Catechism, Luther
vividly applies this teaching. He asks,
What does Baptism mean for daily
living? Answer: It signifies that the
old person in us, with all sins and evil
desires, is to be drowned through
daily sorrow for sin and repentance,
and that daily a new person is to
come forth and rise up to live before
God in righteousness and purity forever.
— Dr. James Bachman
Dean, School of Theology
Concordia University
Irvine, Calif.
572 posted on 03/05/2004 8:35:51 AM PST by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: sinkspur
I don't consider what Krauthammer wrote "senseless babble." It's his opinion, and the opinion of many other well-meaning people.

Is it true that you haven't seen the film?

If so, how can you formulate an opinion about Krauthammer's opinion of that film?

It's just a movie, GSC. Throwing conservative writers overboard because you disagree with them about a movie is just silly.

Some movies are more than just movies, they are cultural events.

I'm not ready to throw Krauthammer overboard, but this bigoted rant of his will color my view of his columns indefinitely.


580 posted on 03/05/2004 8:42:49 AM PST by Sabertooth (Malcontent for Bush - 2004!)
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To: sinkspur
Opinions not based on fact and reason from Jackson and Kerry and Sharpton and Daschle = senseless babble

Opinions not based on fact and reason from Chuck = just an opinion of a well-meaning person

Do you understand why I'm confused?
597 posted on 03/05/2004 8:55:42 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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