Posted on 03/04/2004 10:24:16 PM PST by churchillbuff
Edited on 03/05/2004 10:48:45 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
Gibson's Blood Libel
By Charles Krauthammer Friday, March 5, 2004; Page A23
Every people has its story. Every people has the right to its story. And every people has a responsibility for its story. ...[snip]
Christians have their story too: the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ. Why is this story different from other stories? Because it is not a family affair of coreligionists. If it were, few people outside the circle of believers would be concerned about it. This particular story involves other people. With the notable exception of a few Romans, these people are Jews. And in the story, they come off rather badly.
Because of that peculiarity, the crucifixion is not just a story; it is a story with its own story -- a history of centuries of relentless, and at times savage, persecution of Jews in Christian lands. This history is what moved Vatican II, in a noble act of theological reflection, to decree in 1965 that the Passion of Christ should henceforth be understood with great care so as to unteach the lesson that had been taught for almost two millennia: that the Jews were Christ killers.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
True, so why do you have a problem with my expressing my opinion? Is it only Krauthhammer who gets to be in "high dudgeon"?
This statement is false.
The Church has taught that redemption is available to all who are baptized.
Some baptisms are traditional--water, etc. Some are by martyrdom. And some are 'by desire,' which (roughly) describes the GOOD MEN who are not Christian.
E.G., Moses, Abraham, Isaac--who were ALL seen as in Heaven with Christ by the Apostles. These men are 'by desire' baptisms with Christ, as are many others about whom we do not specifically know.
Intellect is not sense or wisdom or even intelligence--and it looks like Krauthammer has none of the three.
Time for some new pundits! Ann Coulter has written well this week on "The Passion"--
It's colored mine. I thought of Krauthammer as being a rational objective writter for the most part, now I'm seeing through him. The amen corner doesn't want Passion Plays and Nativity Scenes (and Catholic 'priests')in the public domain. It still is as it was. I can't source it now, but Mel was irritated that the 'critics' are trying to blame the Holocaust on Christianity. Nothing could be further from the truth, but yet, it's a big part of their arsenal in taking down Catholicism. Then it was Barrabas or Jesus? Today it's Christians or Islamists? The ADL, has made its choice, with Krauthammer and Safire in tow. So far with the mainstream, they are slipping, hopefully some of the 'damage' done over the last 45 years can be undone. The Passion may be the kickoff point in taking our culture back, to the chagrin of the 'NYT'.
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Exactly. America lurches from one sensational happening to another. Before it was Janet Jackson's boob. Now the the Passion. Next couple of weeks it will something else. Maybe the movie about Troy will be the next biggest blockbuster money making movie of all time.
I have a concern that the fact that so many people have been swept up in seeing this movie says as much about the power of publicity, the dominance of the media, the culture war, and the craving for ever more sensational images, as it does about Christian piety. If the movie had been 20% less violent it would probably garnered no criticism but then maybe nobody would have gone to see it. What made it so different than other movies about the life of Christ? It was the degree of violence. Instead of being what other biblical epics were billed as "The Greatest Story Ever Told, this was the Bloodiest Story Ever Told.
Every people has its story. Every people has the right to its story. And every people has a responsibility for its story. ... Christians have their story too: the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ. Why is this story different from other stories? Because it is not a family affair of coreligionists. If it were, few people outside the circle of believers would be concerned about it. ... Because of that peculiarity, the crucifixion is not just a story; it is a story with its own story -- a history of centuries of relentless, and at times savage, persecution of Jews in Christian lands.
Is it really true that the Jewish story or Muslim story doesn't involve "others"? Or is Krauthammer cropping a picture or cutting a film to take out unwanted faces? Does it follow that if the Jewish or Muslim or Christian story didn't involve others it wouldn't be of interest to outsiders and non-believers? Don't such stories have a universal meaning to all, regardless of whether one believes or belongs? Many Jews would say that of the Exodus story. Many who are at least nominal Christians would say the same of the crucifixion.
And what does it mean to say that "everyone has a story and a right to its story," and to essentially say that the "story of your story is my story -- the story of the persecution of my people." Don't the two propositions contradict? Does one story trump the other? Does the Christian story amount to more than the persecution of the Jews for Krauthammer? Is there not some other relevance of the story, even to non-believers.
Krauthammer seems to believe that we live in wholly separate and self-contained traditions, and that what goes on in another tradition is of no concern to us, except in so far as it attacks or impinges on us. Is that really the case? If traditions are to be hermetically sealed against one another, how does he justify bringing "democracy" to Iraq by force? Is there some inconsistency in Krauthammer's treatment of various cultural traditions?
He has every right to his opinion, but it sounds like he's not the best judge or critic for the picture. In other words, he doesn't even try to find it's good points and bad ones and achieve a balanced judgement, and those who are looking for a fair judgement of Gibson's film will have to look elsewhere.
I haven't seen the film, and don't have an opinion. I did come across a comment (not relevant to this article, but still perhaps of interest) in another review:
most critics last week circled their wagons and took shots at The Passion of the Christ, complaining about excessive violence. It seems like the old story of people only resenting movies with serious content. Casual violence shown just for fun doesnt raise critics ire; they only get upset when violence is made to matter, when its presented artistically.
Movie journalists revealed their cultural biases in last weeks attacks on Mel Gibson, but the hysterical denunciations also exposed their dishonest esthetic criteria. One reason were regularly assaulted with garish, smutty action films like Twisted is because thats what is routinely accepted in the culture. It was stunning to see David Denby on The Charlie Rose Show call The Passion of the Christ "a snuff movie," the kind of insensitive comment that would never be applied to, say, Schindlers List, out of simple cultural respect. Denby breaches that cautionand appears righteous in doing sobecause contemporary film culture is dominated by disbelieving skepticism. If there is a lack of piety in Gibsons film, it has been outmatched by the cynicism of incredulous reviewersand by the weekly tide of sarcastic, nihilistic, anti-human movies like Twisted.
In print, Denby chose a more considered condemnation, "a sickening death trip," which could describe most of the movies that have been pitched to the public as thrill ridesfrom Speed, Pulp Fiction, The Blair Witch Project, Gladiator to such middlebrow morbidity as American Beauty, In the Bedroom, Elephant and demonlover. These films construct a faithless and hip aura in which a subject like The Passion of the Christ can be blithely derided.
No one had to promote it, it was part of the zeitgeist for 1500 years.
Christians vs. Jews
Christians vs. Islam
But mainly Christian vs. Christian in the great intramural religious wars.
Catholic Church vs. Arian Church
Roman Catholic Church vs. Orthodox Catholic church
Roman Catholic Church vs. Albigensian
Roman Catholic Church vs. Protestants
Protestants (Lutheran) vs. Protestants (Calvinist)
Protestants (Zwingli) vs. Protestants (Lutheran)
Church of England vs. Roman Catholic Church
and that's just the highlight reel.
By the end of the Intramural Religious wars, much of Europe was practically depopulated. There are many reports that a man could ride for days across Germany, for instance, and never see another living soul, just abandoned farms and villages.
The wars stopped when there weren't enough people left to fight them.
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True.
The idea of a 'master race' is pointedly evolutionist, not Christian.
"The most unendearing aspect of Christianity is its insistence that only through Christianity can one "be saved"; all others being damned to eternal torture."
Oh come on - just Christianity thinks it is the only way? If you think that, you need to study up on some other religions.
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