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Krauthammer: "Gibson's Blood Libel"
Washington Post ^ | Mar. 5, 04 | Charles Krauthammer

Posted on 03/04/2004 10:24:16 PM PST by churchillbuff

Edited on 03/05/2004 10:48:45 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: mercy
He could have shown that the majority of the Jews loved Jesus of Nazareth. He did not.

I guess you were asleep during the scene where he was given a hero's welcome into Jerusalem...

281 posted on 03/05/2004 1:18:08 AM PST by ambrose ("John Kerry has blood of American soldiers on his hands" - Lt. Col. Oliver North)
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To: wardaddy
What a load! Go suck an egg.
282 posted on 03/05/2004 1:18:11 AM PST by mercy
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To: Ronzo
It seems as if an unintended consequence of this film is Jews having to come to grips with their hostility towards Christianity.

I have had sympathetic Jewish friends here tell me that is not true. Well, it may not be for some, but it is painfully obvious that it is precisely that for some here on this very thread. There is no resolution for that.

283 posted on 03/05/2004 1:18:51 AM PST by wardaddy (A man better believe in something or he'll fall for anything.)
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To: mercy
inteligentsia of Europe

So they are going to go see this movie?

284 posted on 03/05/2004 1:20:05 AM PST by stands2reason
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To: mercy
Antisemitism is exploding and it is the inteligentsia of Europe who are the real enemy.

Agreed. However, what does that have to do with people seeing The Passion?

American Christians are not the same as European Christians.

285 posted on 03/05/2004 1:20:22 AM PST by LdSentinal
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To: churchillbuff
Sorry Charlie - this article puts a big ZERO on your score card.
286 posted on 03/05/2004 1:20:41 AM PST by leprechaun9 (Beware of little expenses because a small leak will sink a great ship!)
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To: wardaddy
They just don't get it, do they?

Lincoln was correct, you can fool some of the people all of the time.
287 posted on 03/05/2004 1:22:37 AM PST by Fledermaus (Democrats! The party of total Anarchy!)
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To: LdSentinal
They weren't targeted for extermination.

Details, details!

288 posted on 03/05/2004 1:22:50 AM PST by ambrose ("John Kerry has blood of American soldiers on his hands" - Lt. Col. Oliver North)
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To: mercy
Come now...you're collapsing at this late hour but you can do better than that.

You started out ambivalent and now you have been reduced to the film is "twisted", we're "illusions" and "not very Christian"

Your idea of a "good Christian" sounds like a FAINTING GOAT to me.
289 posted on 03/05/2004 1:23:07 AM PST by wardaddy (A man better believe in something or he'll fall for anything.)
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To: stands2reason
Exactly, why be anything you're ashamed of?
290 posted on 03/05/2004 1:24:04 AM PST by wardaddy (A man better believe in something or he'll fall for anything.)
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To: LdSentinal
Jews have more to fear from militant Muslims than they do from the patrons of this movie.

There you go again. Bringing up facts.

291 posted on 03/05/2004 1:24:51 AM PST by ambrose ("John Kerry has blood of American soldiers on his hands" - Lt. Col. Oliver North)
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To: Texasforever
TY....was bedtime 2 hours ago.

These threads are like Siren calls...they just lure you in.
292 posted on 03/05/2004 1:25:09 AM PST by wardaddy (A man better believe in something or he'll fall for anything.)
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To: mercy
You are the third, I think, here to take this very limited view. Who is covering up the antisemitism.

Liberal European secularists.

Even more to the point: Which is the great evil? Muslim scum in the streets of Europe or whole nations doing just about everything they can to destroy Israel?

While this is an important point, it's impertinent to the discussion at hand. You were predicting that "The Passion of the Christ" would unleash anti-Semitism in Europe.

The roots of modern Eurpoean anti-Semitism are not in Christianity.

Antisemitism is exploding and it is the inteligentsia of Europe who are the real enemy. The islamonazis in their streets are their fools.

Jesus Christ is the enemy of the irreligious intelligentsia in Europe. They have greater reason to fear this film than do the Jews.


293 posted on 03/05/2004 1:25:23 AM PST by Sabertooth (Malcontent for Bush - 2004!)
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To: Sabertooth
Everybody keeps bringing this thing up about Mel's hand. Meaningless. It's JUST .... a .... hand.

To Krauthammer and a whole lot of Jews the other much more powerful symbols (since symbols seem to mean so much to you) .... like the WHOLE movie .... make Jews look like monsters.

You don't see it. Freepers don't see it. Charles Krauthammer and half the Jews on earth .... DO.
294 posted on 03/05/2004 1:25:29 AM PST by mercy
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To: ultima ratio
"One begins to suspect it fits in with the myth of Jewish choseness."

Myth? What are you talking about? The Jews are still the chosen people. The Catholic Church teaches that. But then you are not exactly a mainstream Catholic are you?

295 posted on 03/05/2004 1:25:53 AM PST by DestroytheDemocrats
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To: mercy
Charles Krauthammer and half the Jews on earth .... DO.

Source?

296 posted on 03/05/2004 1:27:11 AM PST by Texasforever (When democrats attack it is called campaigning)
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To: Fledermaus
I have been suprised by the vitriol towards Gibson from some quarters.
297 posted on 03/05/2004 1:27:12 AM PST by wardaddy (A man better believe in something or he'll fall for anything.)
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To: Texasforever
This is the very first thread that has turned into a flame war on this subject that I have seen. Why now?

Because it seems some Liberty Forum types have crawled out from under their rocks, in an attempt to prove Abe Foxman was right about this movie afterall. They suck.

298 posted on 03/05/2004 1:28:27 AM PST by ambrose ("John Kerry has blood of American soldiers on his hands" - Lt. Col. Oliver North)
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To: mercy; wardaddy
MERCY RESPONDED TO WARDADDY: "...The Power of the Gospel is Christ crucified and resurrected. Not pushy preaching. Not overly bloody movies...

What movie was too bloody? Surely, NOT "The Passion!" Indeed, "The Passion" was NOT BLOODY ENOUGH!!!

According to Isaiah 52:14, "Just as there were many who were appalled at Him---His appearance was so disfigured beyond that of any man and His form marred beyond human likeness..."

I had no trouble at all recognizing that the actor who played Jesus was a man.

BTW, to All, Isaiah 53:6 states: "We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way; and the LORD has laid on Him the iniquity of us all."

Isaiah 53:10 says: "Yet it was the LORD's will to crush Him and cause Him to suffer, and though the LORD makes His life a guilt offering..."

I asked on an earlier post for someone...ANYONE...to show me where in the above Scripture that JEWS are to "blame" for Jesus' death. So far, no one has been able to do so.

Isaiah is VERY CLEAR that GOD Himself CHOSE to have Jesus pay the price to redeem ALL of us!!!!! It's up to each of us to CHOOSE to accept His GIFT of redemption.

299 posted on 03/05/2004 1:29:41 AM PST by Concerned
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To: Texasforever
Well, Krauthammer is quoted above and ok I'll fess up. It's just most of the Jews I know and I'm extrapolating from that and what I have read. I suppose you will only accept a scientific poll. This will take me a few days. OK?
300 posted on 03/05/2004 1:30:54 AM PST by mercy
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