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Imports from Norinco banned
Newsmax ^ | May 2003 | Charles R. Smith

Posted on 03/04/2004 4:41:36 PM PST by Levy78

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To: King Prout
Seemed to me that the chinese firearms were the only chinese import not worth banning - let the trail lawyers try to sue china.
21 posted on 03/04/2004 6:12:23 PM PST by nvcdl
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
"Didn't G HW Bush ban the import of these back when he was x41?"

YES! Along with some very expensive European hardware....like the $10 grand+ H&K PSG-1. Not exactly the weapon of choice for gangs in da hood. Pretty pricey even for a dedicated collector. BUT if you were worried that somebody might object to tyranny enough to pick one up, it'd be just a small but important Executive Order to sign. For those who have been properly and professionally trained in it's proper employment, this rifle is one hell of a long range precision instrument (properly scoped, of course)!!

22 posted on 03/04/2004 6:23:15 PM PST by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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To: dasboot
However, I can't remember ever seeing a photo of news clip of a ME bad guy or socialist rebel army using M16's.


23 posted on 03/04/2004 6:36:17 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: dasboot
However, I can't remember ever seeing a photo of news clip of a ME bad guy or socialist rebel army using M16's.

A Hamas member who identifies himself as Raed Abdel-Hamid Mask is seen in this video frame grab taken from a videotape released by Hamas in the West Bank city of Hebron August 19, 2003, as he says he will carry out a suicide bombing to avenge Israel's killing of one of the group's members. The Islamic group Hamas said it was responsible for a suicide bombing aboard a Jerusalem bus that killed at least 20 people, an attack claimed earlier by another Palestinian militant group. Earlier on Tuesday, the Islamic Jihad group said in a statement to Lebanon's al-Manar television that it carried out the attack, which police said wounded more than 80 people. REUTERS/Reuters TV

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24 posted on 03/04/2004 6:42:32 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls
BaddaBing!
25 posted on 03/04/2004 6:42:56 PM PST by dasboot
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To: dasboot
I can't remember ever seeing a photo of news clip of a ME bad guy or socialist rebel army using M16's.


26 posted on 03/04/2004 6:49:07 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: dasboot
"I can't remember ever seeing a photo of news clip of a ME bad guy or socialist rebel army using M16's."


27 posted on 03/04/2004 6:55:17 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Levy78
Norinco manufactures relatively high quality Ak-47 rifles...

That's a sort of an oxymoron there. Russians call the AK a "motor infantry rifle" and view it as a sort of a crowd-control device. I mean Russians make real rifles, but the AK isn't one of them. Max range with any possibility of hitting anything is probably about 120 yards.

28 posted on 03/04/2004 7:00:53 PM PST by greenwolf
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29 posted on 03/04/2004 7:04:05 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: greenwolf
No. The Ak-47 is accurate out to at least 400 meters. Further, 'rifle' is a term that has to do with actual length, not accuracy.
30 posted on 03/04/2004 9:04:38 PM PST by Levy78
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To: Levy78
No. The Ak-47 is accurate out to at least 400 meters.

Further, 'rifle' is a term that has to do with actual length, not accuracy.

"Rifle" refers to having a "rifled" barrel as opposed to a smooth bore as did muskets and as do shotguns. The term is generally used for long guns today because a certain period of time went by in the late eighteen hundreds during which long guns were invariably rifled while pistols generally weren't. Today of course virtually all barrels in both long guns and pistols are rifled to make bullets spin, so that the term is being misused.

31 posted on 03/05/2004 1:49:25 AM PST by greenwolf
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To: greenwolf
Yes, it is serviceable out to 400 meters. I own several, have shot them many times at those ranges. While certainly not the most accurate rifle, and 7.62 X 39 certainly not being the most accurate round, your statement of them not being accurate past 120 yards is easily dismissed by anyone that has shot an AK or been shot at with one.

Further.... plenty of pistols were rifled prior to the dates you mentioned. Anyway, I started this thread, not as a gun debate, but to discuss the arms dealings of Norinco. If you want to debate Ak's, etc. fire up another thread and I'll be there.

Levy78
32 posted on 03/05/2004 6:20:38 AM PST by Levy78
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