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You're right and the Gospels had already told of what was later shown when the negatives were developed.

The first time I watched a documetary on the Shroud.. I got chills. I cried. I've looked at the image and read the science. There will always be non-believers. Just as there have been hateful people who didn't want this movie to be made or seen.

I think what has made me so proud, is that so many Christians have come together and watched this movie. We've stood in line and talked about what different Churches we are from, and spoke of Jesus dying for us, for our sins and how horrifically He suffered for us. About all the hype of how violent the movie was..and how we KNEW the movie would be violent because He was tortured and died violently.

But all the critics were missing the most poignant part of the movie.. HE FORGAVE HIS TORMENTORS EVEN WHILE HE WAS SUFFERING HORRIBLY and DYING!

How anyone of any faith could walk into this movie and NOT walk away with that knowledge.. is beyond so many of us.

How THEY could THINK any of US could HATE after seeing JESUS LOVE AND FORGIVE.. is beyond ignorant and really is the epitomy of HATE.

So the real HATE is coming from them. But WE FORGIVE THEM!

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Yes, the Shroud is real. I believe that with all my heart.

And it proves that Jesus DID INDEED ENDURE all that we saw in the movie.

The only deviation we could see was in the positioning of the nails. (On the Shroud it was in the wrists) Perhaps that was done because of the special effects that Mr. Gibson needed to do. We watched a special on how they did that. And they actually placed an actors hand underneath the log of the cross. With a prosthetic hand above it, in order to be able to make it move and to put in the nail, and to have blood). But otherwise.. it followed the Gospels to perfection.

So, job well done. And we've seen it twice,..and will most definitely see it a third time before it leaves the big screen.

We were shocked at how differently we viewed the movie the second time. Perhaps it was because the "visual effects" were already over for us (well, you never really get over it.. but you understand).It was even deeper and more spiritual for us. But it was definitely different for us, and we were deeply moved.

We had reviewed the Shroud of Turin information, and that reconfirmed information for us too.

We are extremely grateful that Mr. Gibson made this movie. As are a lot of other Christians. In light of all the evil going on in this world.. it is truly a BLESSING!

You mention the mechanics of the crucifixion. Mel said he studied and asjed the experts and the results were inconclusive so he decided for himself. Rope AND nails. Makes perfect sense. Rope alone and the arm could slip out. Nails alone and the body could tear free.But that REALLY doesn't matter.

A strange thing happened this morning. I went and visited an Anglican Use Roman Catholic Church that I'd heard about and wanted to check out. I just needed a change of pace. The church is called Our Lady of Walsingham, and they have a Shrine to the Virgin and with a Madonna statue and a Crucifix. I was sitting there meditating on the crucifix, and I opened my eyes and everything suddenly seemed to be too bright. Then a very large bird came flying around the side of the shrine, circled around behind me and landed in a tree. It was about 20 feet from me. I figured out later it was a red-tailed hawk. Now, I have never seen a red-tailed hawk before, from any distance, much less flying within 20 feet of me, while I happen to be meditating on a crucifix at a Shrine to the Virgin Mary. And just happened to open my eyes at the right time to catch it. I think the Lord was trying to tell me something. I feel renewed and re-energized, and ready to go forth in the Name of Christ.

I think the reason the shroud is important to me is that the Gospels tell us that Jesus was RESURRECTED, in a spiritual body, but a real, physical body nonetheless. That being the case, a physical transformation had to take place. And for there to be evidence of that left, His precious image left for us to adore.... It Is A Thing Most Wonderful, indeed.