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You mention the mechanics of the crucifixion. Mel said he studied and asjed the experts and the results were inconclusive so he decided for himself. Rope AND nails. Makes perfect sense. Rope alone and the arm could slip out. Nails alone and the body could tear free.But that REALLY doesn't matter.

A strange thing happened this morning. I went and visited an Anglican Use Roman Catholic Church that I'd heard about and wanted to check out. I just needed a change of pace. The church is called Our Lady of Walsingham, and they have a Shrine to the Virgin and with a Madonna statue and a Crucifix. I was sitting there meditating on the crucifix, and I opened my eyes and everything suddenly seemed to be too bright. Then a very large bird came flying around the side of the shrine, circled around behind me and landed in a tree. It was about 20 feet from me. I figured out later it was a red-tailed hawk. Now, I have never seen a red-tailed hawk before, from any distance, much less flying within 20 feet of me, while I happen to be meditating on a crucifix at a Shrine to the Virgin Mary. And just happened to open my eyes at the right time to catch it. I think the Lord was trying to tell me something. I feel renewed and re-energized, and ready to go forth in the Name of Christ.

I think the reason the shroud is important to me is that the Gospels tell us that Jesus was RESURRECTED, in a spiritual body, but a real, physical body nonetheless. That being the case, a physical transformation had to take place. And for there to be evidence of that left, His precious image left for us to adore.... It Is A Thing Most Wonderful, indeed.

I just saw this post. Sorry I'm so late. I sent you a private freepmail. And here is a link I think you'll find interesting. It shows the Sudarium. The first link explains it really well.

The second link will actually show it "even better" with pictures and finger prints which are probably those of The Virgin Mary or John as they held it on our precious Lord's face. No one can know for sure. But it is amazing to look upon it an ponder it's history. The Sudarium actually validates the Shroud, as you will see from the first link.

http://www.shroudstory.com/sudarium.htm

http://www.shroud.com/guscin.htm