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UPN Show Is Called Insensitive to Amish
NY Times ^ | 3/3/04 | BERNARD WEINRAUB

Posted on 03/04/2004 4:32:07 AM PST by anniegetyourgun

LOS ANGELES, March 3 — Several weeks ago UPN, a sister network to CBS, announced a new reality series tentatively called "Amish in the City," in which Amish teenagers would face the shock and temptations of the big city for the first time.

The idea seemed similar to CBS's plan last year to fashion a reality comedy out of a 1960's sitcom, calling it "The Real Beverly Hillbillies." which was to follow the lives of a rural, lower-middle-class family as it moved into a luxurious Beverly Hills house. That plan foundered when rural groups protested that the show was intended to denigrate the rural poor.

"We couldn't do the `Beverly Hillbillies,' " Leslie Moonves, the CBS chairman, who also oversees UPN, told television critics and reporters in January. But the Amish, he joked, "don't have quite as good a lobbying effort."

Mr. Moonves may have been mistaken. Within the last few weeks a campaign to stop the show has been started by lawmakers, rural groups, Pennsylvania Dutch tourism officials and representatives of the Amish. The opposition to the Amish show seems even more powerful than the one that has grounded the prospects of a new "Beverly Hillbillies." Chris Ender, a CBS spokesman, said of the "Hillbillies": "It's an idea that's still being considered, but we haven't made a production commitment toward the show."

The Center for Rural Strategies, a nonprofit organization based in Whitesburg, Ky., has helped organize opposition to the Amish show, at the request of groups representing the Amish. Dee Davis, the president of Rural Strategies and a former documentary filmmaker, singled out Viacom, the owner of CBS and UPN. "Once again Viacom has created a reality show where rural people were going to be these curios," Mr. Davis said. "Viacom's got plenty of ways to make money without ridiculing rural people."

Tim Marema, vice president of the group, said: "From our perspective this is a replacement series for `The Real Beverly Hillbillies.' It's another way of attacking rural people and employing scorn and ridicule on a group of Americans because of where they're from, what they look like, what they sound like. What CBS and Viacom are saying about the Amish is they're rural and therefore they don't count."

UPN, in a statement in response to criticisms of the show, denied that the series sought to demean the Amish and said it would depict them with the "utmost respect and decency." No date has been set for the series. The statement said that since the show "is still in the early development stage, we sincerely hope that any judgment will be reserved until the show is produced." UPN and CBS officials declined further comment.

But what has clearly surprised CBS and UPN is the level of anger about the show. Fifty-one lawmakers, including Pennsylvania's two United States senators, Arlen Specter and Rick Santorum, both Republicans, have sent a protest letter to Mr. Moonves and Mel Karmazin, president and chief operating officer of Viacom.

"We know of no other reality series that singles out the beliefs and practices of a specific group of people as a subject for humor," the letter said. It added, "For almost three centuries, the Amish lived the way they do out of Christian piety and conviction, not out of ignorance. If, by producing this show, you fail to respect that, you will be opening yourselves to charges of bigotry."

Wendy Nagle, president of the Pennsylvania Dutch Convention and Visitors Bureau, said she was offended by the comments made by Mr. Moonves and urged a halt to the show.

Appearing with Dawn Ostroff, the president of UPN Entertainment, who picked up the show from New Line Television, Mr. Moonves insisted at a Hollywood press tour for reporters and critics in January that the series was "not intended to be insulting to the Amish, but to have people who have never had television, who will walk down Rodeo Drive and be freaked out by what they see."

"I think it will be somewhat interesting, but, yeah, this will not be denigrating in any way," Mr. Moonves said. He added that the idea behind the reality show was "fish out of water," similar to Fox's "Simple Life," in which two rich and pampered young women, Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie, worked on a farm. "This is in a certain way a reverse version of that," Mr. Moonves said.

Ms. Ostroff, in announcing the series in January, said it would involve five young Amish who go through a rite of passage called "Rumpspringa," a Pennsylvania Dutch term that means running around. During this period some teenagers elect to experiment with the world outside that is not otherwise available to them. In doing so, some of them drive cars for the first time, listen to current music, dress in contemporary style. Most return to the faith.

Herman Bontrager, secretary-treasurer of the National Committee for Amish Religious Freedom, a group of lawyers, ministers and academics who support the Amish, said there are about 200,000 Amish in the nation, mostly in eastern Pennsylvania, eastern Ohio and northern Indiana. "The Amish are probably more knowledgeable about the world than the CBS and UPN people give them credit for," said Mr. Bontrager, an insurance executive from New Holland, Pa., who grew up Amish and is now a Mennonite.

Mr. Bontrager said emphatically over the phone, "I just find it reprehensible that corporations, especially media corporations in this country, would find it acceptable to make a mockery of a religious group. They just plain don't get it. For Amish people, their religious faith and everyday living are totally intertwined."

The Amish themselves dress simply, live quietly, often reject technology and automobiles and work in rural communities. The Philadelphia Inquirer, in an editorial in January about the show, said, "The Amish, young and old, aren't hapless innocents but in fact know a great deal about the real world (which is why they choose to keep a distance from it)."


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I wonder when UPN will try this with the Nation of Islam.
1 posted on 03/04/2004 4:32:07 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun
How about a reality show "Homosexuals in Saudi Arabia."

We could watch as the religious police beat them with their canes as they flirt in public.

The last one to be beheaded for sodomy wins a million dollars.
2 posted on 03/04/2004 4:37:11 AM PST by Guillermo (It's tough being a Miami Dolphins fan)
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To: Guillermo
I suggest everyone do what I did years ago and dispose of their TV.

The benefits are endless.
3 posted on 03/04/2004 4:40:10 AM PST by Peter J. Huss
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To: anniegetyourgun
Or perhaps UPN could do "Kabbalah Kinks in Hollywood" - oh, wait....that would be a reality show.
4 posted on 03/04/2004 4:50:56 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun

Or how about "Somalies in Maine"...first snowstorm, first flushing toilet, first electricity, first food stamps. I'm sure Les would not have any problems with that concept since Muslims have such a great sense of humor.
5 posted on 03/04/2004 4:57:00 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: kittymyrib
Yeah....so much material there that the Muslims would appreciate....
6 posted on 03/04/2004 5:00:45 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun
Will they be as sensitive as Weird Al?


7 posted on 03/04/2004 5:01:13 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: kittymyrib
Almost as good as "Secular Humanists Gone Wild"....oh, wait that too would be a reality show....
8 posted on 03/04/2004 5:01:44 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun
I was going to pitch my "Amish Gone Wild" videos, but given the criticism of UPN, maybe I should rethink my marketing strategy.
9 posted on 03/04/2004 5:04:44 AM PST by RogueIsland
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To: anniegetyourgun
During this period some teenagers elect to experiment with the world outside that is not otherwise available to them.

Perhaps Moonves and Ostroff will try to tempt them with illegal drugs and bordellos, and take them to all night X discos in Las Vegas.

That'd be a real hoot. /sarcasm

It's beyond a simple judgement call. These TV execs are very sick people.

10 posted on 03/04/2004 5:17:04 AM PST by angkor
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To: anniegetyourgun
"The Amish are probably more knowledgeable about the world than the CBS and UPN people give them credit for," said Mr. Bontrager, an insurance executive from New Holland, Pa., who grew up Amish and is now a Mennonite.

There are a lot of misconceptions about the Amish among the media elite (WOW! Is that a newsflash?).
I grew up in Amish country - Crawford County, Pennsylvania. I return occasionally just because it’s a nice area in which to relax.
Yes, when a man marries he grows a beard. That makes it hard for a woman to say she didn’t know he was married. It makes it hard for the man to deny he’s married.
The forgo buttons and mustaches because they were seen as symbols of the military.
The forgo modern equipment and conveniences like tractors, cars and trucks, electricity etc., and guess what? They have the most prosperous farms in the county.
They are not prohibitionists. While drinking is not encouraged, it is not prohibited either. Many of the roadhouses have hitching rails - when the men have had a few they get into the buggy and tell the horse to head for the barn.
When I was in high school so long ago some of the teens would pool their money and buy a car, storing it at an outsider’s home. They would enjoy the local amusement park and other attractions. When they came to their senses they return to the fold and give up on what they learned was not needed.
It isn’t uncommon to see Amish families in the Big City on shopping and sight seeing trips. While not owning a car, travel by car, train, air and bus is allowed.
If the producers expect to find country bumpkins wowed by the Big City, they’ll have to hire actors to play the role.
The Amish I have known impressed me as generally being hard working, industrious and friendly - and no at all like “The Beverly Hillbillies”.

11 posted on 03/04/2004 5:17:14 AM PST by R. Scott (My cynicism rises with the proximity of the elections.)
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I suggest everyone do what I did years ago and dispose of their TV.

The benefits are endless.

Yep. Got rid of mine over a decade ago. I put it right up there with quitting smoking as far as 'important things you can do to improve your life'.

If enough people would dispose of television it would accomplish a number of very positive things. For one, it would get rid of the Network News Media, thereby relieving ourselves of a constant negative pressure on our society. No more Peter Jennings saying 'Let Us Roll'. No more Katie Couric making ugly eyes at Republicans. No more Hillary sound bytes.

Another good benefit is you drastically reduce the amount of advertising you and your family are exposed to. This has many ecomonic benefits. Personally, I find that I don't want to go out and buy a lot of stuff. I drink about one Coca Cola per month whereas when I still had a television, I would drink several per week. I rarely go to Burger King or McDonalds. Maybe once every six weeks. There just aren't too many things I feel like I need to go out and 'Get it now, while supplies last!' This is a good thing.

It also brings a lot of peace into your life. You never have to get agitated because of some liberal running his/her mouth on the tube.

12 posted on 03/04/2004 5:19:08 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Prodigal Son
Without the TV, I have oodles of time to spend with my kids and wife, not to mention the work I get done working on and around our home.

With 4 kids at home under the age of 6, I have yet to reap the benefits of 'peace'.
13 posted on 03/04/2004 5:29:47 AM PST by Peter J. Huss
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"Come 'n listen to a story 'bout a man named Jebediah...
Worked all day 'n at night started a fiyah..."

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

14 posted on 03/04/2004 5:40:26 AM PST by mhking (Summon the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch!)
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To: anniegetyourgun
An Amish boy and his father were visiting a mall. They were amazed by almost everything they saw, but especially by two, shiny silver walls that could move apart and then slide back together again. The boy asked, "What is this,
Father?"
The father (never having seen an elevator) responded, "Son, I have never seen anything like this in my life, I don't know what it is."
While the boy and his father were watching with amazement, a fat old lady in a wheel chair rolled up to the moving walls and pressed a button. The walls opened and the lady rolled between them into a small room. The walls
closed and the boy and his father watched the small circular numbers above the walls light up sequentially.
They continued to watch until it reached the last number and then the numbers began to light in the reverse order.
Finally the walls opened up again and a gorgeous, voluptuous 24-year-old blonde woman stepped out.
The father, not taking his eyes off the young woman, said quietly to his son, "Go get your mother."
15 posted on 03/04/2004 6:07:42 AM PST by Born Conservative (Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the leather straps.)
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To: R. Scott
I too grew up in Amish country - central PA - and am delighted to say that we are soon returning - eastern OH.

We had wonderful Amish living in our county. For example, the neighbor of a family friend had a fire that burned his barn to the ground, and within that same week, his Amish neighbors had built it back up for him, and he wasn't Amish himself.

Barn building as an Amish concept has become cliche', but it really does happen just like in Witness.

My parents still live in central PA, and there's nothing more relaxing than sitting on the swing in their back yard and watching the Amish kids from across the road plow the field up behind my parents' house.

16 posted on 03/04/2004 6:33:20 AM PST by agrace
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I know I shouldn't, but...

Q. What goes "clip-clop clip-clop clip-clop *BANG!* clip-clop clip-clop clip-clop..."?

A. Amish drive-by shooting.
17 posted on 03/04/2004 8:28:54 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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Back in the mid ‘70’s there was a bad tornado that came through the county.
By the time the insurance adjusters were arriving in town, the Amish had rebuilt the damage to their farms.
18 posted on 03/04/2004 9:52:39 AM PST by R. Scott (My cynicism rises with the proximity of the elections.)
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Amish in the City

They could do a "trading places" thing and put some Hasidim from Brooklyn on a farm.

19 posted on 03/04/2004 9:56:36 AM PST by Alouette (Mitul d'min kadam Shemayo malchusa v'shalim b'ammaya)
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To: Alouette
Or having some queer guys redecorate their barn?
20 posted on 03/04/2004 10:02:11 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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