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Racists will love new 'Hispanic threat' book [GAG ALERT]
The Miami Herald ^ | 03 March 2004 | Andres Oppenheimer

Posted on 03/03/2004 2:55:13 PM PST by MegaSilver

Racists in America must be having a field day: At long last, they have found a world-renowned intellectual -- Harvard's Academy for International and Area Studies Chairman Samuel Huntington -- to rationalize their resentment against America's rapidly growing Hispanic community.

Huntington, whose 1993 book The Clash of Civilizations was later credited for having foreseen the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, says in his forthcoming book Who We Are (Simon & Schuster) that the United States is threatened with national disintegration because of the soaring rate of Hispanic immigrants.

''The single most immediate and most serious challenge to America's traditional identity comes from the immense and continuing immigration from Latin America, especially from Mexico, and the fertility rates of these immigrants,'' writes Huntington, in excerpts of the book posted on the Foreign Policy magazine website .

''Will the United States remain a country with a single national language and a core Anglo-Protestant culture?'' Huntington asks. ''By ignoring this question, Americans acquiesce to their eventual transformation into two peoples with two cultures (Anglo and Hispanics) and two languages (English and Spanish.)'' The magazine website is

www.foreignpolicy.com.

Before I tell you why I think this is pseudo-academic xenophobic rubbish, let's look at Huntington's supporting arguments: He says Mexican immigrants differ from other immigrants in that they are not assimilating into the U.S. mainstream culture, and that they may one day reclaim the territories that Mexico lost during U.S. military invasions in the 19th century.

CAUSES OF ALARM

He is alarmed by the fact that the ratings of Spanish-language television stations have surpassed those of English-language ones in Miami, that ''José'' has surpassed ''Michael'' as the most popular name for newborn boys in California, and that Mexican Americans cheer for Mexico in U.S. vs. Mexico soccer matches.

Huntington sees ''a major potential threat to the country's cultural and political integration.'' Mexico may one day try to ''assert special rights and claims to that territory,'' he writes.

Poor Dr. Huntington. Watching America from his Bostonian observation deck, he is getting real nervous about the erosion of what he defines as America's ``Anglo-Protestant culture.''

But, as seen from Miami, where a majority of adults speak a language other than English at home, his idea that Hispanics pose a threat to America is absurd.

In Miami, many immigrants don't speak English, but their children eventually do.

You saw as many American flags as in any other U.S. city after the Sept. 11 attacks, and the city has become a center of international trade and services precisely because it is bilingual and bicultural.

And where is it written that people are biologically limited to speaking only one language?

Anybody who has traveled through Europe knows that the Swiss, Danes, Swedes and others speak two, three and sometimes four languages.

And Huntington's claim that Mexican Americans pose a bigger threat than Cuban Americans because they are more reluctant to assimilate is simply wrong.

Every time I go to Los Angeles or San Antonio I'm amazed by the number of people with names such as ''Juan Gonzalez'' who don't speak Spanish.

ASSIMILATION TREND

According to a new nationwide study of U.S. Hispanics by the Synovate market research company, the actual trend among Hispanics is toward greater assimilation, despite the new waves of Spanish-speaking newcomers.

Over the past 12 years, the number of unassimilated Hispanics -- those who don't consume English-language media -- has decreased from 40 percent to 26 percent, the study's authors say.

''Most Hispanics, about 63 percent, are bilingual and bicultural,'' says Jim Forrest, the study's director. ``These people are extremely comfortable in both languages. It's a group that has accommodated and has learned how to live in the United States taking the best from their host culture and keeping the best from their home culture.''

If you are wondering whether Huntington's arguments are just misguided, or plainly Hispano-phobic, I suggest doing this little exercise: replace the term ''Hispanic'' in the text with ''African American,'' or ''black,'' then ask yourself what would be the reaction of the black community. I assure you that civil rights groups would call for national protests against Harvard University and Simon & Schuster, as they should do in this case.


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Typical left-wing ignorance.

When you can't refute your opponents, you have two options: a) lie/distort/ignore facts (argumentum ad mendacium), or b) use a catch-all term like "racists" to paint your opponents in a negative light (argumentum ad hominem abusive).

1 posted on 03/03/2004 2:55:13 PM PST by MegaSilver
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To: MegaSilver
the United States is threatened with national disintegration because of the soaring rate of Hispanic immigrants.

No, we're disintegrating because of the soaring rate of lawlessness, both among immigrants and the natives.

2 posted on 03/03/2004 2:59:56 PM PST by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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To: MegaSilver
Racists will love new 'Hispanic threat' book

They probably love donuts, too, but that doesn't make crullers racist.

3 posted on 03/03/2004 3:08:13 PM PST by prion
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To: MegaSilver
Funniest part is that Mr.Oppenheimer agrees with Samuel Huntington on all points except the exact vector of social developments in Hispanic community. Mr.Oppenheimer thinks that Hispanics are mostly assimilating and Mr.Huntington believes that it is not. Otherwise, there were no difference in the opinion.

But Mr.Oppenheimer meanwhile does not hesitate to call Mr.Huntington racist.

4 posted on 03/03/2004 3:09:32 PM PST by alex
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To: MegaSilver
If you are wondering whether Huntington's arguments are just misguided, or plainly Hispano-phobic, I suggest doing this little exercise: replace the term ''Hispanic'' in the text with ''African American,'' or ''black,'' then ask yourself what would be the reaction of the black community.

What a crock! African-Americans almost exclusively speak English. They may have a distinct dialect all there own but understand standard American English when they hear it.

African Americans have been integrated and assimilated for at least 100 years.

And yes I have heard of segregation. They may have not been accepted by the Anglo majority, but they were part of the society as a whole regardless.

5 posted on 03/03/2004 3:15:42 PM PST by Pontiac (Ignorance of the law is no excuse, ignorance of your rights can be fatal.)
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To: My2Cents
No, we're disintegrating because of the soaring rate of lawlessness, both among immigrants and the natives.

No kidding? The same rate of "lawlessness" among immigrants and natives? Sure about that little gem of politically correct moral equivalence? You including those "illegal" immigrants in that comparison, or am I being "racist" for bringing up that little distinction?

6 posted on 03/03/2004 3:34:51 PM PST by Map Kernow ("I hold that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: MegaSilver
Your gag alert is uncalled for!!!

Andrés Oppenheimer is anything but a leftist. He's a strong opposer of the Fidel regime, HE'S AN EXILE, FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!

If whatever "Dr." Huntington said was true, then I wouldn't be writing this in English.

If you want to see assimilation, you should come to our house: We see more English TV than Univision or the news from our home country. My mom sometimes mixes English words when speaking in Spanish at home. My sisters barely speak Spanish, and feel no attachment to Colombia whatsoever.

Huntington may be right about most Mexicans, who certainly don't assimilate completely if at all, but to lump all Hispanics as people who refuse to be American is intellectually dishonest. Not racist, but intellectually dishonest and ill-intentioned.

Maybe if Oppenheimer hadn't included the word "racist", his argument wouldn't been that unpalatable, but he's right on the money.

And before you say every Hispanic is a liberal, you should see the voting trends on the Cuban-American community: Solidly Republican since the mid-60's, when the felt betrayed by JFK and his sloppy handling of the Bay of Pigs.

And about the dissolution of American society, if whatever Huntington said had been historically true, then America would be divided in a nation for the British, one for the Irish, one for the Germans, and so on.

Finally, for those of the "conservatives don't need to pander to racial minorities" or the "we don't need the minority vote" crowd, it's you who discourage minorities from becoming conservative Republicans and keep the liberal Democrat monopoly on minority vote. It's you that guarantee that Trent Lott-like scandals will repeat themselves over and over again.
7 posted on 03/03/2004 3:52:10 PM PST by El Conservador ("No blood for oil!"... Then don't drive, you moron!!!)
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To: El Conservador
And now, I'll put my flame-retardant suit on...
8 posted on 03/03/2004 3:52:44 PM PST by El Conservador ("No blood for oil!"... Then don't drive, you moron!!!)
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To: Map Kernow
So, natives are incapable of commiting crimes all of a sudden???
9 posted on 03/03/2004 3:53:24 PM PST by El Conservador ("No blood for oil!"... Then don't drive, you moron!!!)
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To: My2Cents
No, we're disintegrating because of the soaring rate of lawlessness, both among immigrants and the natives.

Let me get this straight, your saying American citizens commit just as many crimes than those that are committing crimes just by being here? And what do American citizens have to do with millions entering the country illegally?

10 posted on 03/03/2004 3:57:55 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: MegaSilver
BIG, BIG difference between Cuban immigrants and those coming into the US from Mexico and Central America. The writer fails to recognize this.

Cuban immigrants make a quick transition from Cubans to Cuban-Americans to Americans...one generation usually accomplishes this, much like the Poles, Irish, Italians et al of the early 1900's.

The immigrants from Mexico never make a transition from Mexicans to Mexican-Americans to Americans. They are stuck somewhere between Mexicans and Mexican-Americans and have no incentive to complete the transformation.

Samuel Huntington is absolutely right on this issue...surprising for a Harvard Prof.
11 posted on 03/03/2004 4:00:52 PM PST by dmzTahoe (Go Zags!!!...#4 and still rising.)
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To: El Conservador
Finally, for those of the "conservatives don't need to pander to racial minorities" or the "we don't need the minority vote" crowd, it's you who discourage minorities from becoming conservative Republicans and keep the liberal Democrat monopoly on minority vote.

Bump

12 posted on 03/03/2004 4:00:58 PM PST by PRND21
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To: MegaSilver
Mexican Americans cheer for Mexico in U.S. vs. Mexico soccer matches.

Correction: The also cheer for "Osama, Osama, Osama" during games with USA.

But hey, who cares about minor, meaningless details.

13 posted on 03/03/2004 4:03:28 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: dmzTahoe
BIG, BIG difference between Cuban immigrants and those coming into the US from Mexico and Central America. The writer fails to recognize this.

Agreed.

Cuban immigrants make a quick transition from Cubans to Cuban-Americans to Americans...one generation usually accomplishes this, much like the Poles, Irish, Italians et al of the early 1900's.

What I don't get is why Mexican immigrants often don't when Cubans and Europeans do.

14 posted on 03/03/2004 4:06:03 PM PST by MegaSilver
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To: El Conservador
Someone posted the Huntington article a few days ago. It was really very good. It wasn't anything to be offended about.

I agree about not lumping all latinos together. All the politicians seem to do it.

15 posted on 03/03/2004 4:08:02 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: MegaSilver
What I don't get is why Mexican immigrants often don't when Cubans and Europeans do.

Why should they, we have the President all the way down to the local government sellouts doing backflips to pander to these peoples every whim.

16 posted on 03/03/2004 4:08:53 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: MegaSilver
What I don't get is why Mexican immigrants often don't when Cubans and Europeans do.

They do in my neighborhood.

17 posted on 03/03/2004 4:09:37 PM PST by PRND21
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Yes, I think a good chunk of Americans are lawless, or have little respect or concern for the law. Consider the hysterical support for gay marriages, performed in violation of state laws which only define marriage as between a man and a woman. That's just one example. Isn't that the whole problem with the Clinton years? -- the willingness of a majority of Americans to ignore the rule of law and refuse to condemn clearly illegal acts by the President of the United States, simply because "the economy was good"?
18 posted on 03/03/2004 4:10:27 PM PST by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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To: Joe Hadenuf
But hey, who cares about minor, meaningless details.

You do, and those like you. A few dozen soccer fans don't reflect all Mexicans.

19 posted on 03/03/2004 4:10:51 PM PST by PRND21
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To: El Conservador
So, natives are incapable of commiting crimes all of a sudden???

Oh, si, senor! Precisamente lo que dije! Listen, compadre, do you think we need to add to native lawlessness in this country by continuing to permit the massive levels of legal and *illegal* immigration in this country? No we don't, no cabe duda que NO. Claro asi?

Say, why don't you boys read Huntington's article before you make snap judgements? Go ahead and read it online here. Couldn't hurt, right? No one's gonna call YOU a "racist" for reading it, right?

20 posted on 03/03/2004 4:11:34 PM PST by Map Kernow ("I hold that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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