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Morfor: Da Vinci Code Your Life
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | Wednesday, March 3, 2004 | Mark Morford, I swear to God I'm not helping her choose her subject matter

Posted on 03/03/2004 7:03:53 AM PST by presidio9

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:45:58 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: presidio9
Well, in any case, he was pretty old for bachelor in those times.
61 posted on 03/03/2004 9:06:43 AM PST by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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To: BrooklynGOP
...and to defuse any potential claims that Christ has any surviving bloodline ...

This is exactly where the European concept of the 'Divine Right of Kings' comes from.

62 posted on 03/03/2004 9:13:04 AM PST by martin gibson
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To: presidio9
You do know Morford writes for us, don't you? The readers of his columns love how he "sticks it to" conservatives.
63 posted on 03/03/2004 9:15:41 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: presidio9
I find it kind of irritating that some people think this bozo's views should be aired regularly on FR. What is the reason?

He's one of the great fools of our time.

64 posted on 03/03/2004 9:15:51 AM PST by beckett
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To: Just mythoughts
There is an even better version of occult history.
Accorrding to the esoteric version of history promulgated by Michael Baigent, Richard Leigh, and Henry Lincoln in their book The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail, the Merovingian kings were direct descendants of Mary Magdalene and Jesus Christ once they arrived in southern France following Christ's crucifixion and resurrection. The authors further claim that the Roman church killed off all remnants of this dynasty -- the Cathar heresy of Languedoc and the Templars -- during the Inquisition, in order to gain power through the "spiritual" dynasty of Peter instead of the "holy blood" (i.e. Sangreal) of Mary Magdalene's descendants. Holy Blood and the Holy Grail is a lot better book and quite entertaining for pseudo-history. The DaVinci Code is really lame.
65 posted on 03/03/2004 9:18:33 AM PST by robowombat
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To: robowombat
France ????

Things have not quite been the same since that Revolution, wonder if this was the seed bed for that Revolution?
66 posted on 03/03/2004 9:25:48 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: presidio9
Morford, "If you had a brain, what would you do with it?"
67 posted on 03/03/2004 9:36:55 AM PST by rightwingcrazy
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To: BrooklynGOP
Well, in any case, he was pretty old for bachelor in those times.

Perhaps Mary scared a lot of girls off. Jesus had an unusually close relationship with his Jewish Mother :)

68 posted on 03/03/2004 9:42:35 AM PST by presidio9 (FREE MARTHA)
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To: Just mythoughts
Well if Nesta Webster had known about this area of esoterica she certainly would have made use of it in some fashion. She wasthe English writer who, in the 1920s, propounded the idea that the real force behind the Russian and French Revolutions was a conspiracy of Satanists, occultists and Freemasons dating back to the medieval Knights Templar. Such ideas were taken seriously at the time by many upper class Englishmen and find echos in such odd places as the fiction of Denis Wheatley particularly in "To the Devil a Daughter'.Websters writings continue to influence the world view of later Fascist groupings such as the National Front.

Particularly interesting is how Nesta Webster first became interested in conspiracy theory on a visit to Paris where she underwent a mystical experience that convinced her that she was the reincarnation of a French countess who had been a victim of the French Revolution, which she saw as being the work of the same occult forces as involved in the Russian Revolution. This is an interesting example of the point made in the book 'Magonia' that some believers in conspiracy have a super-historical perspective in which they see themselves as fighters against some eternal principle of evil, the reality of which is sometimes conveyed to them in a visionary experience.

69 posted on 03/03/2004 9:48:55 AM PST by robowombat
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To: presidio9
Actually, the town is Saint-Maximim-La-Sainte-Baume, and the relics of Ste Marie-Madeleine are in the Basilica along those of St Maximin and others. The ancient and persistent legend tells of Saint Mary Magdelene and the Bethany family came to Gaul around year 45. Mary Magdelene lived out the rest of her days in spiritual solitude and contemplation in the hills/mountains outside of the town known today as the Massif Sainte Baume. The mountain grotto and chapel where she was said to have lived was a very famous pilgrimage site, visited by the faithful, including several kings.

I was up there a couple years ago, and sadly the area has been closed due to rock slides. Of course I visited anyway. The grotte and the surrounding ridges are stunningly beautiful and pure, and still make for a very moving spiritual experience for the faithful.
70 posted on 03/03/2004 9:54:23 AM PST by truthchaser
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To: robowombat
["Well if Nesta Webster had known about this area of esoterica she certainly would have made use of it in some fashion. She wasthe English writer who, in the 1920s, propounded the idea that the real force behind the Russian and French Revolutions was a conspiracy of Satanists, occultists and Freemasons dating back to the medieval Knights Templar. Such ideas were taken seriously at the time by many upper class Englishmen and find echos in such odd places as the fiction of Denis Wheatley particularly in "To the Devil a Daughter'.Websters writings continue to influence the world view of later Fascist groupings such as the National Front."]


About a week ago someone posted http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/hiss/chambersletter.html.

Until reading this letter I would have said all writings and claims to be writings of "LUNACY", however after reading his letter sure have many questions, considering what is the foundation of communism. = "ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil."
71 posted on 03/03/2004 10:00:43 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: presidio9
What in the world is this goofball trying to say anyway?
72 posted on 03/03/2004 10:03:42 AM PST by Dr.Deth
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To: presidio9
And oh yes, there are so many repressed buried burned crushed or otherwise flayed secrets of the true nature of divinity floating in the air like a mad delicious perfume, mysteries that have been rather nauseatingly overpowered by the rank dank cologne of the patriarchal church -- it's all you can do to breathe deeply anymore without gagging on all the repressed sexuality and stale machismo.

This year's Bulwer-Lytton award winner.

73 posted on 03/03/2004 10:05:07 AM PST by Alouette (Mitul d'min kadam Shemayo malchusa v'shalim b'ammaya)
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To: truthchaser
The grotte and the surrounding ridges are stunningly beautiful and pure, and still make for a very moving spiritual experience for the faithful.

I'll have to take your word for it. It's in France, so I won't be visiting.

74 posted on 03/03/2004 10:07:54 AM PST by presidio9 (FREE MARTHA)
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To: presidio9
This guy makes me want to give up sauerkraut.
75 posted on 03/03/2004 10:19:43 AM PST by Old Professer
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To: hellinahandcart
read later
76 posted on 03/03/2004 11:25:59 AM PST by sauropod (I intend to have Red Kerry choke on his past.)
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To: wingnuts'nbolts
Me too ..
77 posted on 03/03/2004 11:34:59 AM PST by Ben Bolt ( " The Spenders " ..)
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To: oyez
"Informed, aren't we? Where do you get your information?"

I've seen in numerous sources - including Catholic ones - that it was centuries after the gospels were written that mandatory priestly celibacy was imposed, largely for reasons already described by previous posters. Conservative Catholics do not even dispute this. This is not to deny that - from the earliest days - celibacy was admired and practiced by some members of the church; but it was not a requirement for the priesthood.
78 posted on 03/03/2004 12:54:23 PM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Steve_Seattle; BrooklynGOP
So, why was Thomas thrown out?
79 posted on 03/04/2004 1:46:13 PM PST by NotQuiteCricket (10 kinds of people in the world us and them.)
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To: Old Professer
This guy makes me want to give up sauerkraut.

I just got that.

80 posted on 03/05/2004 8:06:19 AM PST by presidio9 (FREE MARTHA)
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