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Vermont town votes to rejoin Granite State
Manchester Union Leader ^ | March 3, 2004 | LORNA COLQUHOUN

Posted on 03/03/2004 4:04:01 AM PST by billorites

KILLINGTON, Vt. — Nearly 2½ centuries after Killington was chartered by New Hampshire, residents of this ski resort town in the Green Mountains, which joined Vermont after the Revolutionary War, say they’re ready to come home.

At town meeting yesterday in Killington, most of the 300 voters in attendance raised their voices and affirmed they want to petition New Hampshire to become a municipality in the state across the Connecticut River.

Wary of sending more tax dollars to Montpelier and receiving what they consider little in return, many in the town of 1,100 saw the move as a last-ditch effort for equity that could save them as much as $10 million.

“New Hampshire, albeit that it’s not perfect, has a much better environment for a community such as ours,” Killington Town Manager David Lewis told residents at the start of the meeting. “Vermont officials believe that we really are just people who write checks to the state.”

At the root of the modern-day tax revolt is the 1997 Act 60 to fund public education. Under Act 60, property taxes have risen, and the town has tried several ways to gain relief over the years. Last fall, the Vermont Supreme Court overturned a lower court finding that the state’s tax methodology was unconstitutional.

With no other recourse, the board of selectmen “felt it was important to look outside the box and explore alternatives that are a little more radical,” Lewis said.

“Act 60 seeks to rob us,” said resident Robert Chernin. “Ultimately, this is the right thing to do. We’ve been failed by the legislature and failed by the judicial branch.”


Killington, Vt., Town Manager David Lewis, left, accepts a New Hampshire flag from Mike Lorrey of Grantham, N.H., a member of the Libertarians Free State Project. (AP)
Residents applauded his remarks.

In the course of the discussion, residents conceded that the move might be a long shot, but resident Jim Blackman said other communities have always looked to Killington to “break ground.”

“I hope we all vote to go forward,” he said.

Another longtime resident was succinct in her support.

“We have to do what Yogi Berra said: When you come to a fork in the road, take it,” said Joan Wise.

One older resident said the continuing rise in taxes would force him to move out of town.

Another resident, retired after a career in political lobbying in New York, urged residents not to be complacent after the vote but to be ready to fight for what they believe. “Otherwise, it will look like this was something we voted on because we were mad,” she said.

Some supported the move, but with some hesitation. Tim Abraham noted that Vermont “takes care of children until they are 18” with a medical program. He also wondered whether New Hampshire has been able to reduce spousal abuse, as Vermont has done in recent years, and whether the Granite State has a well-baby program.

“I support what’s going on, but I look back on Vermont and say Vermont supports progressive ideas,” he said.

Five or six years ago, said Ed Fowler, a 35-year resident, his taxes were $2,200. He anticipates they will be $11,000 later this year.

But not all Killington residents were supportive.

“I was born and raised a Vermonter, and I hope to always be,” said Julie Thomas.

The town has spent about $10,000 so far in exploring rejoining New Hampshire. A line item in the next budget contains $20,000 to continue.

After the vote, there was a round of applause before voters continued the warrant. <

During a break, Mike Lorrey of Grantham, N.H., a member of the Libertarians’ Free State Project, presented a New Hampshire flag to Lewis, followed by a Gadsden flag, with its yellow background, picture of a snake and motto, “Don’t Tread on Me.”

The Free Staters were active in promoting the rejoining effort, said John Babiartz of Grafton, chairman of the Libertarian Party in New Hampshire and two-time gubernatorial candidate. He provided the New Hampshire flag presented yesterday. It has flown just once at his house, the day astronaut Alan Shepard, from Derry, died.

The next move, Lewis said, will be to work on a petition to present to the New Hampshire Legislature in the next session. Babiartz said New Hampshire Rep. Henry McElroy, R-Nashua, will sponsor the petition.

The town, Lewis said, needs to find out now whether New Hampshire would welcome Killington’s return. If it would, he said, the town would petition Vermont to let it go. If Vermont did not support secession, the town would take its case to the U.S. Congress.

“(New Hampshire) is the best place on the planet,” Babiartz said. “We welcome them with open arms.”


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1 posted on 03/03/2004 4:04:01 AM PST by billorites
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To: billorites
Cool! Bump!
2 posted on 03/03/2004 4:10:11 AM PST by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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To: billorites

Killington today,
Tomorrow the World!


3 posted on 03/03/2004 4:10:18 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: billorites
“I support what’s going on, but I look back on Vermont and say Vermont supports progressive ideas,” he said.


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So this is a "Gay!" town?
4 posted on 03/03/2004 4:12:24 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: billorites
Another resident, retired after a career in political lobbying in New York, urged residents not to be complacent after the vote but to be ready to fight for what they believe.

While I might be inclined to support the efforts of these people in trying to secede from Vermont, I must say that people like this make me wonder about what the real source of the problem is. I yearn for the days when a career in "political lobbying" was considered about as respectable as a career in arson.

What you have here is a classic case where someone who spent his life earning a substantial amount of money in politics fled to a neighboring state to retire -- probably to avoid the high taxes in his home state (that are due, in large part, to people like him). And now it hurts to be on the receiving end of the process.

5 posted on 03/03/2004 4:21:56 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Alberta -- the TRUE North strong and free.)
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To: longtermmemmory
So this is a "Gay!" town?

Best skiing in the East. Maybe 40th best in America, but it's a four hour drive from Boston, maybe eight from New Yawk. Huge tourist industry, they don't feel the need to subsidize the rest of Ben & Jerry Land.

6 posted on 03/03/2004 4:23:56 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Uday and Qusay are ead-day)
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To: longtermmemmory
Five or six years ago, said Ed Fowler, a 35-year resident, his taxes were $2,200. He anticipates they will be $11,000 later this year.

Working people love socialism until the tax bill hits them in the pocketbook. By then, it's too late.

7 posted on 03/03/2004 4:26:35 AM PST by AF68
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To: billorites
Having grown up in upstate NY, right on the Vermont border, I am quite familiar with Vermont. When I left the area 25 years ago, I joked that pretty soon Vermonters would have to get permission from the government just to take a crap. You could see the state gov't stifling the people way back then. The question is, what took them so long to figure it out? I say, good for Killington!
8 posted on 03/03/2004 4:44:42 AM PST by jobshopper
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To: billorites
Problem is.....it's 20+ miles from Killington to the NH border.

If Dean were still Governor he'd charge an exit/entrance fee.

9 posted on 03/03/2004 4:46:51 AM PST by JimVT
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To: CatoRenasci
To use an oft-repeated Vermontite phrase -- yeeeehaawww!
10 posted on 03/03/2004 4:57:08 AM PST by Loyal Buckeye
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To: billorites
It's an old story. Liberals -- fed up with crime and taxes in MA and NY -- move to VT and immediately demand the same services (and taxes) they had before they moved.

I propose a Constitutional amendment that requires a person to wait five years before they can move.

11 posted on 03/03/2004 5:10:31 AM PST by pabianice
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To: billorites
If Jeffords can jump, then Killington ought to be able to jump!
12 posted on 03/03/2004 5:12:58 AM PST by OldFriend (Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
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To: JimVT
Well, NJ charges a Real Estate TRANSFER tax.....meaning you pay the state many thousands when you sell your house to leave the state!
13 posted on 03/03/2004 5:14:46 AM PST by OldFriend (Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
maybe eight from New Yawk.

Used to get to Killington in 5 1/2 hours from Long Island. Haven't gone back to Vermont since Jim Jefford's sold his soul. I would immediately visit Killington again if it was actually part of New Hampshire. (Won't happen, but fun to watch.)

14 posted on 03/03/2004 5:16:19 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: billorites
He also wondered whether New Hampshire has been able to reduce spousal abuse, as Vermont has done in recent years,

If all the addresses now have a 'NH' instead of a 'VT', wife-beating will go up? Is that what he's implying? What a dufus!

15 posted on 03/03/2004 5:16:32 AM PST by StriperSniper (Manuel Miranda - Whistleblower)
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To: pabianice
Exact same thing they want when moving here to Florida. "Back North we did or we had ... " Move daHell back!
16 posted on 03/03/2004 5:25:10 AM PST by moonman
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To: OldFriend
Connecticut has a "conveyance tax" when you sell your house. Whether you leave the state or not.
17 posted on 03/03/2004 5:36:33 AM PST by raybbr (My 1.4 cents - It used to be 2 cents, but after taxes - you get the idea.)
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To: OldFriend
Heck...we pay that if we sell the house and move next door!
18 posted on 03/03/2004 5:42:11 AM PST by JimVT
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To: billorites
Looks like Vermont is going to send troops, suspend habeas corpus, take the possessions of the people that live there so they can keep them in Vermont. It worked before for the Yankees before, why change?
19 posted on 03/03/2004 5:59:26 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: billorites
I like the idea - but - what the article doesn't mention is that NH does not have a state tax. Methinks that the people are more motivated by the almighty dollar, than by any other reason.

I also laughed out loud when they called Vermont a 'progressive state'. Sort of like calling Bill Clinton 'ethically challenged'.

20 posted on 03/03/2004 6:10:26 AM PST by wbill
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