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Bill Clinton could be just the ticket for Kerry (BARF)
houston chronicle ^ | 3/2/04

Posted on 03/02/2004 9:55:52 PM PST by knak

With John Kerry's success in Tuesday's primaries, the race for the Democratic nomination for president is all but over -- and speculation about his choice for vice president can now begin in earnest.

John Edwards, Kerry's closest rival [and who is expected to officially withdraw from the race today], is a proven campaigner and could attract Southern voters. Govs. Evan Bayh of Indiana and Bill Richardson of New Mexico have both regional appeal and executive experience. Dark-horse candidates include former Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin and former Sen. Sam Nunn of Georgia.

Amid this conjecture, however, one name is conspicuously absent: Bill Clinton.

Clinton's strengths would compensate for Kerry's weaknesses almost perfectly. Not only is Clinton the most talented campaigner of his generation, but he is also a Southerner -- and since 1948, when Harry S. Truman chose Sen. Alben Barkley of Kentucky as his running mate, every successful Democratic ticket has included a citizen of a Southern state.

Besides, people might even pay to watch Bill Clinton debate Dick Cheney. So why not?

The first objection, the constitutional one, can be disposed of easily. The Constitution does not prevent Clinton from running for vice president. The 22nd Amendment, which became effective in 1951, begins: "No person shall be elected to the office of the president more than twice."

No problem. Bill Clinton would be running for vice president, not president. Scholars and judges can debate how loosely constitutional language should be interpreted, but one need not be a strict constructionist to find this language clear beyond dispute. Bill Clinton cannot be elected president, but nothing stops him from being elected vice president.

True, if Clinton were vice president he would be in line for the presidency. But Clinton would succeed Kerry not by election, which the amendment forbids, but through Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution, which provides that if a president dies, resigns or is removed from office, his powers "shall devolve on the vice president." The 22nd Amendment would not prevent this succession.

So much for the constitutional obstacles. The political ones may be more formidable. They can be summarized in two questions: Would Clinton want the job -- and would Kerry want him to take it?

We won't know until we ask, of course. But before asking, we might cite some compelling reasons for both men to consider a Kerry-Clinton ticket seriously.

For Clinton, the appeal of the vice presidency is both political and personal. First, he could help his party win. Yes, Clinton remains a divisive figure in American politics -- but not so much among Democrats. And surely many voters long for the strong economy and economic stewardship that was one of the hallmarks of his administration.

Second, he could burnish his legacy. In exchange for joining the ticket, Clinton could negotiate for plum assignments as vice president. Mideast peace? National health care? Racial equality? He could focus on any or all of them.

And from a purely personal standpoint, it might be especially gratifying for Clinton to be part of the team that defeats the man who four years ago promised to restore "character" to Clinton's own White House.

The only remaining question, then, is what Kerry thinks of all this. Judging from recent debates, there's little chemistry between Kerry and Edwards.

But Kerry and Clinton would seem to have much in common; they are nearly the same age, worked with each other in Washington for almost a decade and have a shared interest in foreign affairs.

For Kerry, the question may well come down to whether adding Clinton to the ticket would appreciably increase his chances of victory. A couple of polls should give him the answer fast enough. If the results are good, the course is clear: Bring him on.

Gillers is a professor of law at New York University.


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To: Texasforever
meant to say evil genius

;-)
61 posted on 03/03/2004 12:30:04 AM PST by butthead
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To: knak
Aside from the Constitutional problem...John Kerry (heck, anybody) putting himself between Bill Clinton and another shot at the Presidency is like putting himself between a bear and a pack of raw steaks. Both could end very badly. I'll give Kerry this much credit. He may be an arrogant, duplicitous piece of crap...but he's not stupid enough to do that.
62 posted on 03/03/2004 12:41:00 AM PST by RichInOC (John Kerry...Fred Gwynne's Long-Lost Son?)
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To: Dan from Michigan
"Klinton can't be president. I don't think it'll work."

The mutt can't be Vice President either.

The Constitution is clear as a silver bell on that one.

Regards,

63 posted on 03/03/2004 3:55:14 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: knak
Amid this conjecture, however, one name is conspicuously absent: Bill Clinton.

Isn't that because having "served" for 8 years as president he can't run for VP? Otherwise we'd have a Clinton/Clinton ticket.

64 posted on 03/03/2004 3:57:47 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Texasforever
Clelend brings nothing to the ticket at all.

Your wrong there, my freind. He'd be great on the stump.

65 posted on 03/03/2004 3:59:30 AM PST by fhayek
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To: knak
slikc would over shadow hanoi john...and a draft doger/hanoi jane..er john ticket would turn the Vet vote off.
66 posted on 03/03/2004 4:21:12 AM PST by GailA (Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
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To: Walkingfeather
Here's this idiots email address let him know what you think. stephen.gillers@nyu.edu

No need to hammer this guy. Like any good little liberal reporter, he's just doing what he is told to do......

67 posted on 03/03/2004 4:25:26 AM PST by eeriegeno
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To: eeriegeno
Like any good little liberal reporter...

This ignoramus is also a professor of law at NYU.

68 posted on 03/03/2004 4:29:34 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: So Cal Rocket
Here he is, a Vice Dean at NYU:

http://www.law.nyu.edu/faculty/profiles/fulltime/gillerss.html

69 posted on 03/03/2004 5:05:46 AM PST by savedbygrace
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To: stylin19a
Yes, apparently besides being a poor professor of Law, he is also a poor student of english.

This from the 22nd itself.

and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

That is how that section of 22 reads.

71 posted on 03/03/2004 5:36:15 AM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: stylin19a
But he isn't constitutionally ineligible to the office of President, he is inelegible to be elected President, that's a big difference (especially for the man who argues over the meaning of the word "is"). He would be constituionally ineligible to be President if he were under age 35 or foreign born.

Not that I think that there is a snow ball's chance in hell of this happening. Kerry wants to be President, not third in line behind Bill & Hillary.

72 posted on 03/03/2004 5:52:29 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy
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To: Bubba_Leroy
Ummmmm....Bubba, go read the last sentence of the 12th amendment
73 posted on 03/03/2004 5:58:48 AM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: hobbes1
But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

He is not constituionally ineligible to the office of President. He is constituionally inelibile to be elected to the office of President.

74 posted on 03/03/2004 6:21:50 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy
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To: Bubba_Leroy
inelibile = ineligible
75 posted on 03/03/2004 6:25:39 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy
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To: knak
The first objection, the constitutional one, can be disposed of easily...

This could be the motto for the entire democrat party!

76 posted on 03/03/2004 6:27:46 AM PST by apillar
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To: knak
I believe even Kerry knows, if Bill Clinton is his vice-president, he will not survive his term of office.
77 posted on 03/03/2004 6:30:47 AM PST by TEXASPROUD
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To: knak
NO this would be good. It would doom Kerry!
78 posted on 03/03/2004 6:34:17 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Bubba_Leroy
Even Dealing with just the 22nd Amendment (and the fact that the paranoia crowd is willing to ignore the 1947 debates on the matter which SCOTUS will not), The 22nd also would make him Ineligible to be President if Kerry committed Arkancide.

The Amendment is fairly clear. 9 years,355 Days MAX.

The Only Real Argument that Could be made to put X42 NEAR the WH. Would be if Kerry needed to Replace his Veep, 2 years and one Day into his term.But he would still be ineligible for Re-Election in that position.

Personally I wish it weren't so, Because I would love to see Dick Cheney eat Clintons Lunch on MTP, or In a Debate.

79 posted on 03/03/2004 6:43:22 AM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: Bubba_Leroy; All
I'm starting to agree with you. The nexus of the 12th is back to article 2. The 22nd really stands alone. There is no nexus back to the 12th from the 22nd.
It would be interesting to see it "tested".

My knee-jerk ( emphasis on jerk ) reaction was triggered by the thought of x42i being anywhere near the presidency.
sorry for my tirades.
80 posted on 03/03/2004 8:48:50 AM PST by stylin19a (Is it vietnam yet ?)
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