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Perle and co-author David Frum rise in the morning with a map of Israel in front of them and decide what ideas, people, countries to encourage, which to discourage, based on their bearing on Israel. -William F. Buckley Jr. giving voice to Pat Buchanan's overactive imagination.
1 posted on 03/02/2004 1:54:29 PM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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"In this space, I once jocularly proposed that Israel be annexed as the 51st state, which would give us the advantage of participating in the formulation of Israeli policies which we would then automatically endorse."

That's pretty funny.

2 posted on 03/02/2004 2:02:20 PM PST by DentsRun
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It is being claimed, ever more widely, that neocon policies are determined by the advantages they bring, manifest or putative, to the State of Israel.

This is exactly what the Bush Administration brought upon itself by allowing a jack@ss like Richard Perle to have any input whatsoever in the Iraq issue -- particularly in that nebulous, mysterious role as an "unpaid advisor" to the Pentagon.

. . . the most quoted advocates of neocon militancy, Richard Perle and David Frum, go further than merely to deny that neoconservatism is an Israel First world view. They insist that criticism of neocon policies is, at heart, anti-Semitic.

Mr. Perle and Mr. Frum, meet Abe Foxman.

3 posted on 03/02/2004 2:06:37 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Alberta -- the TRUE North strong and free.)
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LOL Mssr Buckley but we won't be holding our collective breaths waiting for you to fire the Little Frummer boy, who suggested Mel Gibson is Holocaust Denier on Sunday
4 posted on 03/02/2004 2:11:27 PM PST by JohnGalt ("...but both sides know who the real enemy is, and, my friends, it is us.")
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BTTT. Good article. Sure to get the paleoCONS steamed. :)
5 posted on 03/02/2004 2:19:18 PM PST by veronica ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people." GW Bush 1-20-04)
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It is being claimed, ever more widely, that neocon policies are determined by the advantages they bring, manifest or putative, to the State of Israel. Patrick Buchanan, in the current American Conservative, believes this ardently

Why shouldn't Buchanan believe this ardently, many of the leading neocons including Perle, Wolfowitz, Feith, Ledeen, and Bryen have all been investigated in the past for leaking classified informatiom to Israel.

7 posted on 03/02/2004 2:45:30 PM PST by westerfield
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Personally, I believe God chose the Jews and Israel to carry ethical monotheism into the world.

I also believe He chose America to carry goodness into the world, as our history well illustrates.

I believe if we cease to do these things, God will turn against us, as He did at Sodom, where Lot vainly tried to convince Him there was some good left there too.

15 posted on 03/02/2004 3:11:49 PM PST by onedoug
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It's an unreasonable polarization of opinion: 1) everything a neocon advocates is animated by a concern for Israel, and, 2) every criticism of neocon policy is animated by anti-Semitism. That is straitened thought, and should be resisted.

And we can throw out all the neo and paleo prefixes, too, as far as I'm concerned. After that, we can start throwing out some of the other labels like nazi, gay, libertarian, commie, feminist, conservative, anarchist, liberal, progressive, libertarian, homophobic, and socialist. These labels are like little chains!!

Why can't we just deal with issues and ideas one at a time? ;-)

29 posted on 03/02/2004 3:32:03 PM PST by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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So let me get this straight: You mean the Jews don't control the world?
31 posted on 03/02/2004 3:33:18 PM PST by Imal (The more time goes by, the more I appreciate the profundity of cynicism.)
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The latest craze on this board has gone from find the RINO to hunt the Neocon. It's all rather absurd actually that some some socalled devout conservatives whom most likely don't agree with each other on EVERYTHING conservative would attempt to place a litmus test on others around here.

Let the witchhunt begin!
32 posted on 03/02/2004 3:37:05 PM PST by Tempest (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="miserable_failure">)
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Gah, all of this "neo-con" paranoid nonsense really irks me. If I were a lefty and wanted to divide the conservative movement, I'd invent something just like this.
39 posted on 03/02/2004 4:21:34 PM PST by Constantine XIII
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btt
87 posted on 03/02/2004 9:33:09 PM PST by nopardons
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