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Assault Weapons Ban Vote this morning***LIVE Thread

Posted on 03/02/2004 1:54:09 AM PST by conservativefromGa

Senate Bill 1805

Debate continues this morning @ 9:30am on C-Span2

Amendments will be voted on around 11:30am (including AWB, and gunshow "loophole"

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: awb; bang; banglist
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To: Shooter 2.5
Ten Republicans voted for the AWB.
481 posted on 03/02/2004 10:53:33 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Get the GOP to stop putting "moderates" and "RINOS" on their tickets and you wouldn't be having this discussion right now.
482 posted on 03/02/2004 10:59:20 AM PST by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: cc2k
Its hard to buy guns of your choice at a reasonable choice when there are no manufacturers and dealers left.

These are my rights too. I own an AR-15, as well as other guns. I have a stake in this.

IMHO, it should be passed in the Senate, stripped in committee where we have control and then put into law without the ammendments.

Protecting the entire industry trumps the AWB
483 posted on 03/02/2004 11:01:43 AM PST by 2oakes (US citizen, ex-brit, and VERY glad of it)
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To: Dead Corpse
Oh, gee, my magic wand must be broken. I can't seem to get conservatives elected in lib states. Do you think I can borrow your's?
484 posted on 03/02/2004 11:09:39 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: 2oakes
" it should be passed in the Senate, stripped in committee where we have control and then put into law without the ammendments"

Do we know who the members of the committee are?
485 posted on 03/02/2004 11:09:43 AM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: looscnnn
Well, they just as well tack on every other amendment they can think of on this bill now that they have rendered it a TOTAL PIECE OF GARBAGE!

They just couldn't leave the damn thing alone could they.
486 posted on 03/02/2004 11:13:08 AM PST by CougarGA7 (I wont let Democrats change "We the people" to "You the subjects".)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Sarcasm is a scalpel, not an axe.

Stop pushing for "party over principle". The GOP will get the idea.

487 posted on 03/02/2004 11:14:39 AM PST by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Dead Corpse
We're back live on the Senate floor...
488 posted on 03/02/2004 11:16:58 AM PST by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Dead Corpse
Fat Ted,back from his 3 martini lunch, trying to say the words "armor piercing bullets" as many times as his allotment on the floor will allow...
489 posted on 03/02/2004 11:20:09 AM PST by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Area51
Maybe Bush will veto this crap because it's not in the format he wanted. One can only hope.
490 posted on 03/02/2004 11:20:20 AM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy
He has to get his Veto Stamp back from Karl.
491 posted on 03/02/2004 11:22:03 AM PST by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: CougarGA7
"They just couldn't leave the damn thing alone could they."

Of course not, the dems aren't going to listen to Bush and even if he had not said anything, they would have tacked them on anyway.
492 posted on 03/02/2004 11:22:28 AM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: Dead Corpse
Maybe if I could quit hearing how gun owners want to give power back to the anti's because of the actions of ten people I wouldn't feel this way.

The GOP already has the idea. We have a pro-gun majority in the House but not in the Senate. That was repeated over and over since the last election. The strategy has been the AWB has to die in the House. That was repeated over and over. We had a liberal in the White House. Today, we have a moderate. That was repeated over and over.

It's amazing that posters are finally waking up on the day we lose at the Senate level to a situation that's been repeated for years. It tells me how active they have been for their Second Amendment Rights.

493 posted on 03/02/2004 11:25:12 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: 2oakes
2oakes wrote:
Its hard to buy guns of your choice at a reasonable choice when there are no manufacturers and dealers left.
It's equally hard to buy guns of your choice when the government outlaws the guns of your choice. The manufacturers are out of business either way, if they get sued out of business, or if the government bans their products. I don't see much difference.
2oakes wrote:
These are my rights too. I own an AR-15, as well as other guns. I have a stake in this.
Sounds like your position is, "I got mine when I could. Too bad for anyone who was too young or too stupid or whatever to get theirs back when they were legal."
494 posted on 03/02/2004 11:29:04 AM PST by cc2k
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To: Shooter 2.5
It's amazing that posters are finally waking up on the day we lose at the Senate level to a situation that's been repeated for years. It tells me how active they have been for their Second Amendment Rights.

Lets give them a little credit for being active today, but only if they call their Senators and renew their memberships in the NRA and GOA.

495 posted on 03/02/2004 11:29:22 AM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: looscnnn
I can't believe how ticked off I am about this. Especially at the RINOs! I'm thinking about e-mailing them ideas for other amendments they can tack on this bill now. Like:

A special tax break for homosexuals who are living with illegal marriage certificates.

Amnesty for terrorist who enter the country but promise to vote for Kerry.

On-line voter registration for the dead.

It can get ridiculous as it wants now, so why not take it all the way.
496 posted on 03/02/2004 11:34:52 AM PST by CougarGA7 (I wont let Democrats change "We the people" to "You the subjects".)
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To: Shooter 2.5
No. What we were hearing, particularly here, was "VOTE GOP, becuase everything else is a vote for a Dem".

We friggin' WARNED everyone about voting for RIINO's. Now we are being proved correct.

497 posted on 03/02/2004 11:35:18 AM PST by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Dead Corpse
Dead Corpse wrote:
He has to get his Veto Stamp back from Karl.
It's a veto pen (I think, it's been so long my memory might be playing tricks on me).

And I think that's one of the things Der Slickmeister forgot to turn over to President Bush's team back during the transition in January of 2001.

498 posted on 03/02/2004 11:36:30 AM PST by cc2k
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To: TC Rider
I can't reward someone who posts they're going to stay home on election day. Sorry. The anti-Rights dem party has to be driven from power.
499 posted on 03/02/2004 11:38:10 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: CougarGA7
Check out some of these.

1 . Expressing the sense of Congress with respect to the Second Amendment. (Introduced in House)[H.CON.RES.179.IH]
2 . Right to Keep and Bear Arms Act of 2003 (Introduced in House)[H.R.3125.IH]
3 . Second Amendment Rights Protection Act of 2003 (Introduced in House)[H.R.193.IH]
4 . To prohibit the use of taxpayer funds to advocate a position that is inconsistent with existing Supreme Court precedent with respect to the Second Amendment. (Introduced in Senate)[S.364.IS]
5 . Expressing the sense of the Congress with respect to the right of all Americans to keep and bear arms in defense of life or liberty and in the pursuit of all other legitimate endeavors. (Introduced in House)[H.CON.RES.251.IH]
6 . Second Amendment Protection Act of 2003 (Introduced in House)[H.R.153.IH]
7 . District of Columbia Personal Protection Act (Introduced in Senate)[S.1414.IS]
8 . District of Columbia Personal Protection Act (Introduced in House)[H.R.3193.IH]
9 . States' Rights and Second and Tenth Amendment Restoration Act of 2003 (Introduced in House)[H.R.276.IH]
10 . Firearms Heritage Protection Act of 2003 (Introduced in House)[H.R.357.IH]
500 posted on 03/02/2004 11:38:27 AM PST by OXENinFLA ("A free people ought to be armed" ------ George Washington)
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