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Springsteen torture at Camp X-Ray
news.com.au ^ | 01 March 04

Posted on 02/29/2004 4:17:34 PM PST by Doctor Raoul

Springsteen torture at Camp X-Ray


01Mar04


A TERROR suspect freed from Guantanamo Bay has told of cruel and unusual punishment.

Hamed Abderrahman Ahmad, a Spaniard who denies any links with terrorism, said he had to wrap his head in a damp towel to try to muffle loud tapes of Born in the USA.

Mr Ahmad said he was confined to a small cell where the lights were always on and he was forced to listen endlessly to Bruce Springsteen.

"First I spent a month in a cell two metres square that had a roof of sheet iron, with unbearable heat," he said.

"All day they blared patriotic American music. It was Born in the USA. We had to put wet towels on our heads to be able to bear the heat and not hear the music . . .

"Later they put us in even smaller cells."

This report appears on NEWS.com.au.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
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To: handk
I knew somebody would bring them up. John Denver's "gift" to the music world. Ick.
121 posted on 03/01/2004 5:33:12 AM PST by speedy
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To: JoeSixPack1
Yeah, a couple of spins of "Incense and Peppermints" turns anyone into a drooling, docile moron. Put on a little Vanilla Fudge and Moby Grape while you're up.
122 posted on 03/01/2004 5:35:49 AM PST by speedy
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To: KneelBeforeZod
hmmm lets play a song critical of the USA to a bunch of people who hate the USA.

I think it's a good choice ---- in a subtle kind of way --- many people mistake it for a patriotic song --- including these mohammedans. Springsteen is probably steaming mad --- he's going to have to admit his song is torture and condemn them for using it, the liberals would have to demand an anti-American song has to be pulled.

123 posted on 03/01/2004 6:15:45 AM PST by FITZ
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To: larlaw
Maybe they could take a Dixie Chick song and play it over and over and over for the next torture.
124 posted on 03/01/2004 6:17:22 AM PST by FITZ
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To: speedy
Hey Speedy! Gosh, has it been a year? That was the best thread ever, I think. I'll have to peruse this thread later when I have more time, but just in case no one else has said it: CHRISTY LANE!!!
125 posted on 03/01/2004 6:54:40 AM PST by T Minus Four (Critically Ill Smurf)
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To: Capt. Tom
HEY! I like Lawrence Welk!
126 posted on 03/01/2004 7:00:00 AM PST by eyespysomething (I'm thinkin', I'm thinkin'!! Hold yer horses.)
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To: T Minus Four; speedy
Anyone have a link to last year's thread? I vaguely remember it (I think it was in response to a survey article about "the worst" song).
127 posted on 03/01/2004 8:06:12 AM PST by weegee (Election 2004: Re-elect President Bush... Don't feed the trolls.)
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To: Doctor Raoul
Aren't we forgetting the ultimate torture????


128 posted on 03/01/2004 8:18:16 AM PST by Guvmint_Cheese
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To: Mr. Mojo
Practically any post-1980 Springsteen is torture.

Testify, brother! If you've heard one yelping, you've heard 'em all.

129 posted on 03/01/2004 8:19:49 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Uafásach an chumhacht, gan taise an tóraíocht.)
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To: weegee; speedy
Found it!

The most fun thread ever!

130 posted on 03/01/2004 8:21:15 AM PST by T Minus Four (Critically Ill Smurf)
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To: Doctor Raoul

131 posted on 03/01/2004 8:25:23 AM PST by Libertarian444
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To: weegee
Thank you. To hear to voice of "It's my party and I'll cry if I want to" covering AC/DC, and doing it well, is worth the price of the whole album!
132 posted on 03/01/2004 8:57:41 AM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: F16Fighter
I didn't mean Springsteen sounded like disco. I said he was in the same category i.e. both sucked.

A friend of mine who I met in the late 80s used to own a club in Manhattan back in the 70s - he played disco for the reason you mention - it got the ladies in the joint. Of course the ladies got the men in and with that combo he sold a lot of drinks. But he'll quickly admit he was not a disco fan for musical enjoyment aspects. That being said Disco was an urban thing at first but it eventually changed all the clubs in the suburbs that used to have live rock bands. They all eventually switched to a DJ and dance music. I started going to clubs when I was 16 as I was big and had facial hair plus my friends were older and you only had to be 18 anyway. At least I got to experience the club scene before the switch was wide spread and finalized.

What did I listen to? Typical stuff - Stones, Zeppelin, Doors, Pink Floyd, Allman Brothers, etc. plus two bands that were big that got no radio play at all - Black Sabbath and Hot Tuna. Never got into most of late 70s bands at all - cheap trick, foreigner, van halen, etc. - they were almost as bad as Bruce ;^) Like I said to Mr. Mojo, it got to the point that I had to turn the radio dial every 3 song so I eventual gave up R&R. Hey man, it wasn't a point of trying to be cool, it was a natural reflexive reaction of my ears. Some sounds inspired me and others were like fingernails on a blackboard. Why do some guys like football and others baseball and others like both and some can't stand either? It's how we're hard wired - genetics that is. I react to color the same way I react to music. I'm sensitive to these things. Some aren't and so it goes....

133 posted on 03/01/2004 10:17:50 AM PST by u-89
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To: KarlInOhio
I saw your Singing Senators album cover -- have they kicked Jumpin' Jim Jeffords out of the band, or did they just break up?
134 posted on 03/01/2004 12:14:24 PM PST by NYCVirago
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To: Mr. Mojo; u-89
Ah, but Springsteen almost never got radio play prior to 1980 (when you were in HS). His first hit was "Hungry Heart" ('80) and his career took off from there (although the quality of his music took a huge nosedive).

That's true nationally, but Bruce was a New Jersey icon before then, with lots of NYC radio airplay.

135 posted on 03/01/2004 12:18:05 PM PST by NYCVirago
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To: NYCVirago
Yep, ....I should've been more clear and said "top 40" radio play. The songs from Born to Run and Darkness on the Edge of Town were played pretty consistently on the legendary FM L.A. rock stations at the time -- KMET and KLOS.
136 posted on 03/01/2004 12:23:00 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: F16Fighter
Though his 'Darkness On the Edge of Town' album came out at the height of disco, he was THE man. And that album was one of the most anticipated albums ever -- especially on the heels of the 'Born To Run' album, which brought to attention his great work on the previous album, 'The Wild, The Innocent, and the E Street Shuffle.'

Do you remember when Scott Muni of WNEW got an advance copy of Darkness? The way I heard the story, he supposedly was in a record store when he overheard some Barbra Streisand fan complaining about having a Springsteen album in her BS record sleeve? The record in question turned out to be Darkness. The story goes that Muni took the record off her hands, and was the first to play the album on the radio.

137 posted on 03/01/2004 12:24:08 PM PST by NYCVirago
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To: NYCVirago

138 posted on 03/01/2004 12:28:22 PM PST by Aeronaut (Peace: in international affairs, a period of cheating between two periods of fighting.)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Yep, ....I should've been more clear and said "top 40" radio play. The songs from Born to Run and Darkness on the Edge of Town were played pretty consistently on the legendary FM L.A. rock stations at the time -- KMET and KLOS.

It's funny with Bruce -- he was a local hero rock icon in NY/NJ in the 70s, became a national star in the 80s, and is pretty much back to being just a local hero again now. The vast majority of his American tour dates last year were on the East Coast.

139 posted on 03/01/2004 12:29:27 PM PST by NYCVirago
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To: u-89
What did I listen to? Typical stuff - Stones, Zeppelin, Doors, Pink Floyd, Allman Brothers

That's what I listened to mostly as well. .....and you can throw in Lynyrd Skynyrd, Tom Petty, Neil Young, Bob Dylan, Yes, Aerosmith (up until '78), Little Feat, CCR, Cream, Jeff Beck, Leon Russell, Hendrix......too many to mention, really.

But I also listened to a lot of jazz -- Mingus, Monk, Miles, Coltrane, Tatum, Ellington........

140 posted on 03/01/2004 12:29:48 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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