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Bush Orders bin Laden Caught
news.com.au ^ | February 29, 2004 | Roy Eccleston

Posted on 02/29/2004 7:51:18 AM PST by John W

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To: John W
So now a member of the media actually thinks Bush wasn't trying to capture Osama Bin Laden all along. What next, "Scientists Discover Sun is Hot!" Where do they get these morons?
41 posted on 02/29/2004 9:55:52 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Plutarch
Boy are you WRONG!!!!!!!

It is next to impossible to get tinfoil anymore.

It's all made out of aluminum now...........................
42 posted on 02/29/2004 9:56:32 AM PST by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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To: gatorbait
"tantrums?"

When did I call anyone a name?

When did I make a personal attack?

I still hope you have a good day. Cheer up!


43 posted on 02/29/2004 10:00:09 AM PST by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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To: John W
Biased headline, I see.
44 posted on 02/29/2004 10:01:54 AM PST by #3Fan (Kerry to POW-MIA activists: "You'll wish you'd never been born.". Link on my homepage.)
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To: The Wizard
I wonder why Bush went after Saddam before finishing off Osama. After all Osama was the "known" immediate threat to America. I think Bush made a calculated error in sending US troops to Iraq prematurely. Americans could justify the chance of losing young men in a war with Osama but not Saddam first. Not that I think Saddam did not need to be removed. I just disagree with who received the termination first.

Bush was on top of the rubble calling "The rest of the world hears, and the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon." It's been 2 1/2 years and we still don't have Osama. Bush re-election rest on getting Osama. Until then the American people will not have closure.

45 posted on 02/29/2004 10:09:07 AM PST by Orange1998
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To: John W
Senator Kerry says Mr Bush effectively allowed bin Laden to escape two years ago when he relied on local warlords instead of US troops to hunt him in Afghanistan's Tora Bora region.

Under Kerry's stated policies regarding UN permission, we wouldn't have even had US troops in Tora Bora.

46 posted on 02/29/2004 10:14:20 AM PST by TN4Liberty
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To: WhiteGuy
I still hope you have a good day. Cheer up!

Oh totally cheered. You too! It looks like it's gonna pour here. Nothing new , it's been a monsoon in 3/4 time here for awhile.

47 posted on 02/29/2004 10:42:34 AM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: John W
From the Pakistan Observer Feb 29,2004

The story behind the Osama story

Few observers agreed with the authenticity of an Iranian Radio report that Osama bin Laden, the most wanted man today, was apprehended “some time before” from Pakistan.

A close monitoring of three reports issued by the Iranian Radio and official news agency on Saturday regarding Osama’s alleged capture showed that there were several contradictions within three reports.

One report said that he was captured from Pakistan’s “tribal areas” while second report said he was “held in no-man’s land”. The third report added that “he was arrested some time before” while initial report suggested that he was held “few days ago”. The third report issued by IRNA said that he was held “long time ago”. But in all dispatches it was suggested that he was “captured” from Pakistani territory.

The IRNA report also quoted Iranian Radio report as saying that “Rumsfeld trip to Pakistan on Thursday had been made in connection with the capture”. Pakistan and American officials have denied any knowledge of Rumsfeld’s visit to Pakistan. However, Secretary of Defence, Donald Rumsfeld did visit Afghanistan last week and there was no confirmation of his visit to Pakistan.

An Iranian Radio broadcast on Saturday in its Pushtu Service bulletin claimed that Osama bin Laden had been captured from “tribal areas of Pakistan”.

Observers here noted that the Iranian Radio report was carried out during afternoon but was not repeated thereafter in its more popular Farsi or Urdu language broadcast.

The Iranian official news agency, IRNA, later issued what it termed as “a confirmation report” and added that “radio’s external service, broadcast in Pushtun, said US Secretary of Defence Donald Rumsfeld`s trip to Pakistan on Thursday had been made in connection with the capture.”

The radio said, “the capture of the Al-Qaeda leader has been made sometime before, but US President George W Bush is intending to announce it when the American presidential election is held.”

The official news agency report claimed that “contacted by IRNA, an IRIB announcer at the Pushtun service, confirmed the news, which he said, they had got from a `very reliable source` in Peshawar, Pakistan.”

“Osama bin Laden has been arrested a long time ago, but Bush is intending to use it for propaganda maneuvering in the presidential election,” the broadcaster was quoted as saying.

“Osama`s head on a platter is believed to be a big boost to Bush`s presidential chances, which are increasingly being eclipsed by Democratic presidential front-runner John Kerry,” IRNA report added.

Some Western observers believe that the Iranian move could be a part of counter propaganda by Tehran against Washington. They also cited about “new moves by Tehran” to counter American strategy in the region. Tehran and Washington are at odds over Iraq policy, nuclear issue and Afghanistan strategy.

However, Pakistani sources have expressed their grave shock over such reports that appear to be aimed at “wrongfully implicating Pakistan”.

“Such claims, if taken seriously by some radicals, could have spark off a violent reaction by handful but die-hard fundamentalist believers and sympathizers of militant leaders”, warned an observer.

Independent experts monitoring the regional situation do not rule out the possibility that some “high profile leaders may have already been arrested from Afghanistan during recent days or weeks”. But they see little indication that could lead the experts to conclude that the top leader of Al-Qaeda had been nabbed during last week’s operations in Pakistan.

“Had Osama been arrested in Pakistan, the security situation in the country would have been quite different and VVIPs would not be moving so openly at least for now”, a security official requesting anonymity said.

Osama running may be caught soon. A senior most US anti-terrorism official on a special visit to Pakistan told selected group of journalists that Osama bin Laden “is on the run …He’s hiding. He spends most of his time trying to keep from getting caught.”

The senior US official was however, optimistic that “Osama bin Laden will be captured soon.”

Ambassador J Cofer Black, director of America’s counter-terrorism office, added “I feel confident that it will be sooner rather than later, although I’m not going to speculate on the exact date.”

In an interview Ambassador Black was quoted as saying that the United States “knows Osama bin Laden is still in touch with other Al-Qaeda leaders, though on a limited basis.”

Ambassador Black added that “although Osama bin Laden still evidently takes a role in planning Al-Qaeda operations, the majority of his focus is now spent avoiding capture. “

Ambassador Black also met Interior Minister Faisal Suleh Hayat and other senior was in Islamabad on Friday and Saturday and discuss further cooperation between the two states against terrorism.

48 posted on 02/29/2004 11:06:04 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Orange1998
Whom is totally defeated first during war against multiple enemies is not based on a wish list,but on circumstances.Japan attacked the United States on December 7,1941.With our allies we defeated Germany in May 1945 and didn't defeat Japan until later that year.Calculated error on the part of The Allies?I don't think anyone would describe it that way 60 years later.
49 posted on 02/29/2004 11:31:58 AM PST by John W
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To: goldstategop
He'll just pull another card out of his butt. The "What took you so long card?" or the "Why now card?"
50 posted on 02/29/2004 11:54:02 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: John W
Good point!! We all can learn from history.
51 posted on 02/29/2004 6:59:14 PM PST by Orange1998
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To: WhiteGuy
Nobody on this board knows what GWB is thinking WhiteGuy. All one has to do is read a history book to see that what certainly appears to be reality, is often just smoke and mirrors. Trust but verify.

In addition, a healthy and informed cynicism of your government's actions, irregardles of party, is something the forefathers would encourage. Some people seem to forget that this forum is about the conservation of our Constitution and not a booster party for any one president or person.

I personally think that SOB Bin Laden got incenerated by America's finest technology at Tora Bora (I can't help but think of that Stratofortress leaving a circle in that clear blue sky with impunity). The only assholes that were with him and could verify he was vaporized got vaporized themselves. Then the idiots in the Taliban or AQ that didn't get to see Task Force Dagger and Friends Touring Road Show that year don't even know if he is alive or not.
52 posted on 03/03/2004 8:55:47 PM PST by ChinaThreat (E)
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To: The Wizard
"what a stupid headline, like the order was just given....."

I had a business client in Minnesota who passed away recently. The beneficiary of the client is a professor at the University of Minnesota. I've had no prior relationship with the beneficiary.

In my first conversation with the beneficiary, the comment was made that Usama would be "captured" at an electorially appropriate time.

The libocrats are more devious than many of us think they are.

53 posted on 03/03/2004 9:10:10 PM PST by Positive
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To: WhiteGuy
My gut feeling is that GW is a straight shooter, so I doubt he'd do anything like "staging" such a capture.

But in politics even straight shooters need to cast themselves in a good light, so funny things can happen.
54 posted on 03/03/2004 9:12:47 PM PST by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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