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Free trade loses lustre
The Sunday Times ^ | February 29, 2004

Posted on 02/29/2004 1:13:49 AM PST by sarcasm

WASHINGTON: Free trade is losing support in the US, in particular among high-income Americans, as more professionals feel threatened by job outsourcing to low-wage nations.

A recent poll by a Washington research group found falling support for free trade but the shift was most dramatic among those earning more than $US100,000 ($A130,000) a year.

The University of Maryland's Program on International Policy Attitudes found the percentage of those earning more than $US100,000 who actively supported free trade slid from 57 per cent in 1999 to 28 per cent in January 2004.

These results surprised even the researchers.

"It is rare in any case that any demographic slice drops 20 or 30 points on any issue," said research director Clay Ramsay.

"It certainly provides evidence for the theory that job insecurity is creeping up the income scale."

The poll showed more white-collar Americans joining the blue-collar outcry against globalisation and cast a cloud on the ability of the US to remain a leader in free trade. It also suggested protectionist talk would rise during the presidential election campaign.

But researchers said the results showed a majority of Americans endorsed free trade in principle, even if they believed it was being handled poorly by Washington.

"Feelings about international trade have gone from lukewarm, to luker," said PIPA director Steven Kull.

"Two-thirds say they support the reciprocal lowering of trade barriers but feel more needs to be done to mitigate the effects on workers and the environment." But the trend towards outsourcing of software and engineering jobs to countries such as India had led to a rethink of the benefits.

Senator Charles Schumer wrote recently in the New York Times that free trade had to be reconsidered in light of new economic realities, notably that much of the outsourcing was going to "a relatively few countries with abundant cheap labour".

"When American companies replace domestic employees with lower-cost foreign workers to sell more cheaply in home markets, it seems hard to argue this is the way free trade is supposed to work," Senator Schumer wrote.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: freetrade; outsourcing; trade
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To: 1rudeboy
Goo goo gah gah feel better now? Time for beddy bye!
121 posted on 02/29/2004 1:43:24 PM PST by agitator (...And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark)
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To: agitator
Brilliant. Thanks for the input.
122 posted on 02/29/2004 1:44:30 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: hedgetrimmer
Because every "free trade" agreement implemented in the last 30 years has put America at disadvantage, subjugated her to communist nations and has thrown away the rights of US citizens.

Incidentally, the article at the top of this thread is from an Australian newspaper, and was likely inspired by the free-trade agreement that Australia signed with the U.S. a couple of weeks ago. Does she fall under your description above?

123 posted on 02/29/2004 1:49:32 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Of course, Hugo Chavez is the region's most vocal opponent of FTAA.

Good for him!

124 posted on 02/29/2004 1:51:46 PM PST by A. Pole (The genocide of Albanians was stopped in its tracks before it began.)
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To: A. Pole
There ya' go. But I am a socialist because sarcasm found a NYT editorial that favors free-trade. Am I to presume that your fondness for Mr. Chavez is simply emotional?
125 posted on 02/29/2004 1:54:20 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: agitator
Lol. It's no use, most of the free trade lovers are either getting rich from current policies or are being paid to tell us all how wonderful it is.
126 posted on 02/29/2004 1:58:45 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
An almost flawless ad hominem. Well done.
127 posted on 02/29/2004 2:02:10 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Am I to presume that your fondness for Mr. Chavez is simply emotional?

If he puts Venezuela first then he is right (both emotionally and rationally). Everyone should be loyal to his homeland. "Free" trade can go back to Hell!

128 posted on 02/29/2004 2:04:53 PM PST by A. Pole (The genocide of Albanians was stopped in its tracks before it began.)
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To: A. Pole
Wait a minute. If Mr. Chavez is "right (both emotionally and rationally)," then how would you explain hedgetrimmer's attempt to link me to his trade policy? I sense some cognitive dissonance.
129 posted on 02/29/2004 2:10:48 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
An almost flawless ad hominem. Well done.

One can only discuss free trade with its proponents for so long when you all hear are silly platitudes about how opposing it in its current form makes that person a Marxist. It does no such thing and only points up to the desperation free traders are feeling these days over the growing opposition to failed policies.

130 posted on 02/29/2004 2:12:36 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Now to prove we have learned from those warnings, we must do everything in our power to stop the implementation of the FTAA.
131 posted on 02/29/2004 2:13:18 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
I would not be true to my "nic" if I let a good ad hominem go lonely. Shouldn't your "nic" be ReaganwuzthebestexceptwhenheproposedafreetradeagreementwithMexicoduringhis1980campaign?
132 posted on 02/29/2004 2:13:59 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Like I said, desperation. Reagan was not in favor of free trade of this sort. He constantly talked "fair trade" and did not hesitate to slap tariffs and quotas when need be.
133 posted on 02/29/2004 2:16:53 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
. . . when you all hear are silly platitudes about how opposing it in its current form makes that person a Marxist.

Did you hear that somewhere on this thread?

134 posted on 02/29/2004 2:17:25 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Did you hear that somewhere on this thread?

Give it time, it always does.

135 posted on 02/29/2004 2:25:27 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: agitator
Goo goo gah gah feel better now? Time for beddy bye!
What an insightful, witty retort. You sir, are obviously a master debator.
136 posted on 02/29/2004 2:27:11 PM PST by Scutter
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To: Scutter
That last post was meant for 1rudeboy. Sorry agitator.
137 posted on 02/29/2004 2:28:57 PM PST by Scutter
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To: FITZ
China not have tarrif, China have law that what is to sell in China be made in China...period. That is not tarrif, that is wall.
138 posted on 02/29/2004 2:31:39 PM PST by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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To: lewislynn
"If they're capable of doing the job(s) why do they need jobs of Americans to "raise their income level"?"

What was the average wage in the US in 1960?

139 posted on 02/29/2004 3:05:52 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Unless the world is made safe for Democracy, Democracy won't be safe in the world.)
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To: 1rudeboy; Reaganwuzthebest; hedgetrimmer; A. Pole; RussianConservative; sarcasm; Walkin Man; ...
1rudeboy, this is mainly for you. Can you tell us one place where free trade exists and is profitable as well as beneficial for all sides?

Isn't it true that "free trade" is merely a theory and, much like socialism, has never been successful anywhere on earth? Up till now all we have ever had is regulated trade. What proof do you have that it will work as you and the other free traders claim. So far, we have seen, with the limited implementation of free trade an increase in profits to some here in America and a definite erosion of the middle-class economically. Why sould we believe a theory that has never been applied and, in fact, the opposite has always been successful?

140 posted on 02/29/2004 3:06:56 PM PST by raybbr (My 1.4 cents - It used to be 2 cents, but after taxes - you get the idea.)
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