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Oh, For Art's Sake! (The Passion)
Anna Zetchus Raetz

Posted on 02/28/2004 8:54:36 PM PST by AnnaZ

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To: Syncro
"But I don't think it was my "imagination"

I understand you.

Does inspiration come to many people but only a few can put it in words, or into stone or even onto canvess or celluloid in ways that leave the rest of us practically speechless?

101 posted on 02/29/2004 2:38:31 PM PST by Dust in the Wind (I've got peace like a river . . .)
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To: AnnaZ
I just watched the Passion with my wife.





I got in the car before I remembered that I smoke.....................

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102 posted on 02/29/2004 2:39:34 PM PST by Eaker ("Do I feel your pain?? Hell, I caused your pain!!!!" - Tom Eaker, 2004)
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To: AnnaZ
Thank you for the beautiful homage to this beloved film. I just returned from seeing it and its beauty and love I find overwhelming.
103 posted on 02/29/2004 3:23:13 PM PST by eleni121 (Preempt and Prevent)
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To: AnnaZ
We have tickets for tommorow at 2:00PM in Murfreesboro TN (a bedroom community 30 miles SE outside Nashville where my mom lives and where she will watch the children).

It should be noted that all of the shows today on 3 screens at the Carmike multiplex were sold out as well as all evening shows till March 9th and all weekend showing thru next weekend. Basically only some matinees were open for the next week and a half.

Murfreesboro is the hub of Rutherford county with a city population of around 70K and countywide population of around 200k and is one of 7 counties comprising metro Nashville.
104 posted on 02/29/2004 4:49:01 PM PST by wardaddy (A man better believe in something or he'll fall for anything.)
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To: AnnaZ; dix; humblegunner; Allegra; antivenom; bobbyd; eastforker; Flyer; Humidston; olliemb; ...
The Passion.

Where to start?

The hype and reviews would have swayed me in a normal movie.  I forgot about all of it as I watched.  I forgot that I was a husband, father, friend, and FReeper.  I slipped quietly into the movie.  Only occasionally did I really remember that it was indeed a movie.  Quite a few idiots brought children from baby to teen, but there was just barely a peep from them.  Bringing children is just stupid, but bringing mature teens is acceptable as long as they understand the story, know who the players are and have a grasp that Jesus died for us.  For our sins.

I never thought about a drink or popcorn, which is understandable considering the gravity of the material.  However, after getting into the car when the movie was over I realized that I never once thought about a cigarette.  I have been a smoker for 32 years.  Smokers will understand.

To the movie.

The cinematography was unbelievable.  There were no gaps, only a few breathing breaks that came in handy.  One could breath during the flashback scenes for the most part, but during the movie breathing was an option.

I felt as if I was walking in the crowd during some of the scenes, and not during other scenes.  I really had to think about why, then being a FReeper kicked in. When I felt part of the crowd I was a rank and file person amongst fellow workers.  Craftsmen, blacksmiths, accountants, buyers and the like.  When I was not part of the crowd it was during the day when I would have been at work.  It was the motley mob of lackeys that we conservatives rail against.  The very people who don't work and want higher taxes.  They cheered every time the Jewish High Council call for crucifixion.  They actually chanted the word in response to their corrupt leaders.  They could show up at 9:00am on Tuesday morning.  I and all of my friends would have been at work.

Satan walked among them ........ every time.  Satan and that damned baby, or the baby of the damned.  I have to work on that one as I am really woefully ignorant of the Bible and need to make sure that I am not walking with Satan on occasion.

The Romans were a different story.  I could see the difference in rank by attitude.  The ones who took great relish in beating Jesus were the scummy conscribes, kicked out of better units, stationed in "hell" and without a prayer of a better life.  They were not your average producing, 401k saving, want to retire someday Roman.  They were the dregs.  The Romans on horseback rolled their eyes and I could see them chanting the same mantra that I chanted throughout most of the movie.  Quit hitting him.  For your souls sake quit hitting him.

Pilate was a middle manager in a crappy job in "hell".  Normally he would have been there for two years and gone back to Rome with a cushy job.  He had been there for eleven years and on top of that Caesar was ticked at him.  "One more uprising and the blood is yours" is what Caesar had told him.  

He was between a rock and a hard place.  That is a funny saying and many of us use it.  We never discuss what it means.  He didn't have any options.  There was going to be an uprising either way.  He had Jesus beaten 98% to death to save Jesus' life and that wasn't good enough.  I am not trying to make Pilate out as a good man as he would not have been in this position if he was a good man.  He was stuck.  He did have a good wife as she felt the Mother's pain and brought her cloths.  It is a shame that you could see the yellow streak up her back when she turned and ran from what could have been a gracious act.

I never felt like a father.  There was no place for me to be a father.  I was a friend to the Mother.  I couldn't project me as a father to Jesus.  I hurt for Jesus, but knowing Jesus' power and grace I could not put myself in that place.

The subtitles were not a problem.  No problem at all.  I actually picked up on some words and phrases and could skip reading some of the subtitles.  Other times the character could only say one thing.  I didn't have to read those.  When the guards were beating Jesus subtitles were neither used nor required.  I could fill in the blanks and that kind of sickened me, about me.

The movie's score was masterful.  It never interfered and only occasionally became part of the experience.  When it presented itself I always knew that the Calvary was coming.  It didn't.  It never did.  I knew it couldn't, but so wanted to see some of our favorite Hollywood heroes come over the hill and righteously kick some butt.  I and my friends and my FRiends would have done some stomping.

We all know that it wasn't our place.  Jesus could have stopped the proceedings at any time.  He could have called upon our Father to bring in 20 legions of Angels at ANY time.  They were close, weeping and ready.  He couldn't as that would not have cleansed our sins.

That is my take, right or wrong and sorry to be so long winded.

105 posted on 02/29/2004 8:29:26 PM PST by Eaker ("Do I feel your pain?? Hell, I caused your pain!!!!" - Tom Eaker, 2004)
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To: AnnaZ
good article...It was such a realistic portrayal of Christ's sacrifice.I thought that the dialogue in their own language gave it more realism.
106 posted on 02/29/2004 8:33:27 PM PST by fabian
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To: Eaker
Mr Eaker you have missed your calling ...........very good.

Stay safe !

107 posted on 02/29/2004 8:37:27 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Eaker
Well Said!!!
108 posted on 02/29/2004 9:01:23 PM PST by olliemb
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To: Eaker
Thanks FRiend. I haven't been yet and am really anxious to see it for myself. I remember years ago, seeing a medical explanation for what Christ went through and it was staggering. I wish I had copied it.

You've given me a good description.
109 posted on 02/29/2004 9:18:40 PM PST by Humidston (Two Words: TERM LIMITS)
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To: Eaker
That is my take, right or wrong and sorry to be so long winded.

Thank you.

BUMP

110 posted on 02/29/2004 9:25:39 PM PST by thackney (Life is Fragile, Handle with Prayer)
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To: AnnaZ
Where is the discussion of the lighting, the performances, the camera work, the music, the vision?

Thank you. I was just saying, on another thread, that I have never seen so many movie reviews that mentioned *none* of those things. Until now.

111 posted on 02/29/2004 9:29:10 PM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: Eaker
Best thing you've ever written Tom.

God Bless

112 posted on 03/01/2004 5:02:07 AM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (PEACE - Through Superior Firepower)
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To: AnnaZ
And if you choose to accept the story just depicted then the only acceptable response to it, indeed the demand of it, is love.

By now millions have testified that this was their reaction. Yet, William Safire just told us that the only response to the film is vengeance.

Who is blind?

113 posted on 03/01/2004 5:07:59 AM PST by Taliesan (fiction police)
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To: Eaker
Thanks for sharing that, brother.
114 posted on 03/01/2004 5:16:23 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: Eaker
Thank you
115 posted on 03/01/2004 5:22:15 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Just once I'd like to get by on my looks.)
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To: AnnaZ
Okay, okay, okay...Geez, I will see it a THIRD time for God's sake (the pun intended)...)

Holy, Holy, Holy is the Lord God Almighty!!!

116 posted on 03/01/2004 9:43:01 AM PST by Outraged
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To: AnnaZ
Thanks for the flag and analysis!
117 posted on 03/01/2004 10:01:59 AM PST by The_Eaglet (Conservative chat on IRC: http://searchirc.com/search.php?F=exact&T=chan&N=33&I=conservative)
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To: tame
Ping to post #105
118 posted on 03/01/2004 12:42:52 PM PST by Eaker ("Do I feel your pain?? Hell, I caused your pain!!!!" - Tom Eaker, 2004)
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To: AnnaZ
Beautiful article.
119 posted on 03/01/2004 12:49:33 PM PST by RightWingMama
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To: livius
Interesting that you mention "all the senses".

My wife thought that the music in the movie was excellent.

Hers was the first comment that I've heard/read on the score.
120 posted on 03/01/2004 1:01:26 PM PST by kidd
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