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Montana Gov. Defends Commandments Display
Foxnews ^ | 2-27-04

Posted on 02/28/2004 11:55:16 AM PST by Indy Pendance

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:39:05 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

HELENA, Mont.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; US: Montana
KEYWORDS: judymartz; monument; tencommandments
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1 posted on 02/28/2004 11:55:16 AM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance
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2 posted on 02/28/2004 11:57:33 AM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance
"Anybody that has trouble with the Ten Commandments, I think they have something going inside of them that would need a little help anyway."

Well I'm certainly glad to hear that the gov knows what my needs are. Isn't that what the liberals are trying to sell me also?
3 posted on 02/28/2004 12:06:22 PM PST by Kerberos
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To: Indy Pendance
The same people who rail against the Ten Commandments being placed in a statehouse are the very same people that rail against the Biblical definition of marriage. To them, the answer isn't Christianity or human history - it's a black-robed, all-powerful overseer.
4 posted on 02/28/2004 12:15:15 PM PST by Viking2002 (I think; therefore, I Freep............)
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To: Kerberos
Well I'm certainly glad to hear that the gov knows what my needs are. Isn't that what the liberals are trying to sell me also?

Heck, I think he had a point about those that are offended by the Ten Commandments having other issues that might require help. To me, it was refreshing to hear someone take a chance of "offending" those who go out of their way to keep anyone from being unnecessarily exposed to the Commandments, then turn around and want to expose all our kids to Gay awareness and other such crud in school.

5 posted on 02/28/2004 1:39:56 PM PST by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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To: Indy Pendance
We need to start having our own mayors and governors defending the constitution by placing ten commandments monuments in courthouses throughout conservative America.
6 posted on 02/28/2004 1:43:22 PM PST by mysonsfuture
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To: trebb
"those who go out of their way to keep anyone from being unnecessarily exposed to the Commandments, then turn around and want to expose all our kids to Gay awareness "

And I too am not thrilled about Gay awareness but by the same token I am not thrilled about the government making the Christian religion the preferred religion as that is not the religion I or my family follow.
7 posted on 02/28/2004 3:04:27 PM PST by Kerberos
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And I too am not thrilled about Gay awareness but by the same token I am not thrilled about the government making the Christian religion the preferred religion as that is not the religion I or my family follow.

The country was founded on Christian principles. But, that does not seem to be the main problem. The odds are, that whatever religion it is that you follow will get a lot more tolerance than Christianity. I believe that they ought to stop squashing religious expression and using too broad an interpretation of "State-Sponsored- Religion". They "protect" us from having to look upon the Commandments, then expose us to trash and filth - there is obviously an agenda that has nothing to do with our well-being. It's all about control.

8 posted on 02/29/2004 5:27:26 AM PST by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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"The country was founded on Christian principles"

That point is debatable but even if it is true time changes things. Most people, at the founding, we most likely Christians because their parents were Christians as were their parents, parents. The really had no awareness that their were other choices.

Today, living in the information age, that is not true anymore. People have instant acess to worlds of information and as people become more and more aware they are simply rejecting Christianity as being a false religion.

"The odds are, that whatever religion it is that you follow will get a lot more tolerance than Christianity"

Well maybe yes, maybe no. It certainly won't get more tolerance by Christians as they always seem to be short on tolerance.

"there is obviously an agenda that has nothing to do with our well-being. It's all about control."

Well certainly, government has always been about control.


9 posted on 02/29/2004 2:16:27 PM PST by Kerberos
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as people become more and more aware they are simply rejecting Christianity as being a false religion.

Christianity is not a religion - it is a belief in Christ as the Lord and Saviour.

If you believe otherwise, I would like to hear what it is you do believe in, but you sound as if you think that the "informed" don't believe in Christ the Saviour. You obviously don't believe in the Bible, so what is it that you do believe in? Does it stand up to available information and the "informed?

10 posted on 02/29/2004 2:38:54 PM PST by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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"Christianity is not a religion - it is a belief in Christ as the Lord and Saviour."

So if that were true then it would mean that Islam is not a religion but a belief that Allah is God and nothing more.

"You obviously don't believe in the Bible"

No I don't believe in the Bible, it is so full of contradictions that it is hard to grasp how anyone could believe and how it has survived for as long as it has.

"so what is it that you do believe in? Does it stand up to available information and the "informed?"

That is something I don't share with people who really don't have an interest. The only important point is that it meets my needs, which is something Christianity was never able to do.

11 posted on 02/29/2004 3:06:47 PM PST by Kerberos
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To: Kerberos
That is something I don't share with people who really don't have an interest. The only important point is that it meets my needs, which is something Christianity was never able to do.

In other words - you have managed to convince yourself, but those who are "not interested" tend to argue holes in it.

12 posted on 02/29/2004 5:41:57 PM PST by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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"In other words - you have managed to convince yourself, but those who are "not interested" tend to argue holes in it."

Nice try but no that's not it.
13 posted on 02/29/2004 6:02:59 PM PST by Kerberos
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To: Kerberos
No I don't believe in the Bible, it is so full of contradictions that it is hard to grasp how anyone could believe and how it has survived for as long as it has.

Not believing in the Bible is fine. Try this experiment. Get 4 people into one room, show them a piece of video, any length is fine, then tell each person to go into separate rooms and write a one page thesis about what they had seen. I bet not one will write entirely the same from beginning to end, matter of fact, even you couldn't dispute that. Well, that's exactly how the Bible is. Basically the same general theme, written by different disciples, not all in the same room together at the same time that each book was written.

14 posted on 03/04/2004 4:03:21 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is Communism one drink at a time. - P.J. O'Rourke)
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"Well, that's exactly how the Bible is. Basically the same general theme, written by different disciples, not all in the same room together at the same time that each book was written."

But how can that be if it is the "infallible Word of God" as many proclaim. Does God make mistakes?

15 posted on 03/08/2004 5:27:02 PM PST by Kerberos
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Does God make mistakes?

Long and short answer? No.

16 posted on 03/08/2004 5:32:05 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is Communism one drink at a time. - P.J. O'Rourke)
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Since the left is breaking the law and conducting gay marriages, the right should display the 10 commandments and be prepared for a confrontation over it when authorities come to pull Gods laws down....
17 posted on 03/08/2004 5:34:14 PM PST by raloxk
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To: BigSkyFreeper
"Long and short answer? No."

Then how can there be, by your own statement, mistakes within the bible. If the writers were guided by God to write the books, they should all perfectly match up.


18 posted on 03/08/2004 5:39:47 PM PST by Kerberos
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Well, that's exactly how the Bible is. Basically the same general theme, written by different disciples, not all in the same room together at the same time that each book was written.

So the books are merely accounts of the same series of events by different human beings, and are not bound together by some sort of common divine inspiration? What importance or significance could divine inspiration have if the books contain such differences?
19 posted on 03/08/2004 5:41:43 PM PST by BikerNYC
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How do you know they're mistakes?
20 posted on 03/08/2004 5:57:00 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is Communism one drink at a time. - P.J. O'Rourke)
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