To: Shooter 2.5
You Said:
"That study would buy us the time to defeat the amendment and the anti's. Bear in mind, all of the gun groups are still working for a clean bill."
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The way I'm reading it though, if I had my CZ52 loaded with Russian mil-surp (steel core) and even used it in self defense, I would be guilty of a crime.
Point #2 is that armor piercing in military terms only applies to vehicle armor, not protective vests. The study is bad precedent in my book. It can only conclude that almost all rifle bullets will go through most LEO protective vests and help the anti's yell "cop killer".
I fear anything that leaves interpretation up to BATFE. A lot / most eastern block 7,62x39 ammo is steel core, they simply found it cheaper to make that way. Someone at BATFE figured out that there was a 7,62x39 silhouette/hunting pistol and outlawed all the steel core surplus.
To: El Laton Caliente
I fear anything that leaves interpretation up to BATFE.As well you should. An agency promulgates regulations and bulletins and memos regarding how they will enforce a law, and those can change anytime the agency feels so inclined. No congressional oversight required.
9 posted on
02/28/2004 8:18:28 AM PST by
.38sw
To: El Laton Caliente
And without a two year study, any so-called "cop-killer" bullet gets banned immediately, including the 9mm that went through the officer's vest after the first half dozen or so were stopped. Read this testimony from Kennedy. Do you think he cares whether you have another use for your firearm?
" Another rifle caliber, the 30.30 caliber, was responsible for penetrating three officers' armor and killing them in 1993, 1996, and 2002. This ammunition is also capable of puncturing light-armored vehicles, ballistic or armored glass, armored limousines, even a 600-pound safe with 600 pounds of safe armor plating."
So don't think your daddy's deer rifle or your 9mm is safe.
10 posted on
02/28/2004 8:25:11 AM PST by
Shooter 2.5
(Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
To: El Laton Caliente
"Point #2 is that armor piercing in military terms only applies to vehicle armor, not protective vests. The study is bad precedent in my book. It can only conclude that almost all rifle bullets will go through most LEO protective vests and help the anti's yell "cop killer."The antis already claim that all semi autos belong to the military family and do not belong in "civilian" hands. Might this not seem to be supporting their false claims? Almost any full metal jacket rifle round will go straight through a LEO vest if propelled with sufficient force. This certainly applies to any hunting ammo designed to harvest big game, especially if the nose configuration is conical rather than flat or round. For that matter, a tanto point knife will slice through a vest if you miss the steel plate. The devil is in the details. I think we must have a "clean" bill.
14 posted on
02/28/2004 9:36:18 AM PST by
ExSoldier
(When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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