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1 posted on 02/27/2004 8:51:21 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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2 posted on 02/27/2004 8:52:36 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ... Support Our Troops! ... NO NO NO NO on Props 55-58)
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"Since the legality of the marriage licenses are in question, we are not accepting that document to change names," said Leslie Walker, a spokesman in the regional office that covers California and seven other western states and U.S. territories.

Please, let them sue.

Great move, whoever's behind this. Hope it's Bush.


3 posted on 02/27/2004 8:53:38 PM PST by Sabertooth (Malcontent for Bush - 2004!)
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To: NormsRevenge
hehehehehehehe....hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha......LOL,LOL,LOL !
5 posted on 02/27/2004 8:54:52 PM PST by nopardons
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To: NormsRevenge
What's stopping one addle-brained, publicity-hungry Social Security employee from going ahead and processing these? Certainly not the law!!! If judges and mayors are above the law, why not a lowly civil servant??
7 posted on 02/27/2004 9:06:05 PM PST by ChocChipCookie (I misunderstand, misinterpret, and then overreact! Try it! It's fun!)
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To: NormsRevenge
LET THE LAWSUITS BEGIN!!!
8 posted on 02/27/2004 9:07:45 PM PST by zarf (..where lieth those little things with the sort of raffia work base that has an attachment?)
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How do they decide which one changes their name?
16 posted on 02/27/2004 9:51:39 PM PST by chaosagent (It's not the fall that kills you. It's the sudden stop.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Is it true the California DMV requires some kind of court document to change a name?

In California one may change names at will, and state agencies will recognize it. A court-ordered name-change change is for convenience, but not necessary.

The Federal government will or did automatically accept the name on record with one's state of residence, with very few exceptions (passport applications are an exception, I think).

If you are a lawyer and believe this isn't correct, please step in.

So, one ought to be able to do -- or were able to do -- the following in California: decide to change a name, get a driver's license under the new name (making clear the fact of a name change on the DMV application), apply for a revised Social Security card with the new name and the old number, and update bank accounts to use the new name.

This is not to sanction gay marriage: gay marriage is a fraud and a sham, intended to lure vulnerable youth into believing that homosexuality is not a quasi-cult and not a social abnormality. It is both of those things.

21 posted on 02/27/2004 10:04:39 PM PST by Tax Government
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Soc. Sec. will not accept SF Marriage lic. SO who will? What state will accept the SF license?
23 posted on 02/27/2004 10:17:09 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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Brilliant!
26 posted on 02/27/2004 10:23:22 PM PST by thoughtomator ("What do I know? I'm just the President." - George W. Bush, Superbowl XXXVIII pregame statement)
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28 posted on 02/27/2004 10:33:32 PM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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Friggin anarchy .........prosecute every dang one of em ! From that Turdburgler of a Mayor to those knowingly break the law by attempting to defraud with their BS reindeer games.

Stay Safe Norm !

31 posted on 02/27/2004 11:01:54 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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This is going to get interesting when the IRS does not accept gay marriages on income tax forms.
38 posted on 02/28/2004 6:06:44 AM PST by mware
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OUT-FREEPING-STANDING!!!!!!!
41 posted on 02/28/2004 6:33:00 AM PST by Chairman_December_19th_Society (Conservatives aren't perfect, we're just right.)
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So SF marriage licenses aren't valid after all.

Well, isn't that just a crying shame.
42 posted on 02/28/2004 7:03:06 AM PST by little jeremiah (...men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Hee hee hee hee hee...

For those who really wish to fight this war, to "win", definitively stopping this faux marriage business, may I suggest the most formidable weapon ever known to man: bureaucracy.

Bureaucracy can kill something when the most dangerous weapons of mass destruction have no effect. I think George Orwell knew this: a bureaucrat has powers of destruction that a soldier could only dream of!
44 posted on 02/28/2004 7:57:46 AM PST by Devil_Anse
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I smell a lawsuit coming.
46 posted on 02/28/2004 8:02:45 AM PST by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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The reason the Social Security won't accept SF Gay marriage is due to the Defense of Marriage Act. Specifically, the DOMA contains the following clause:

"7. Definition of 'marriage' and 'spouse'

"In determining the meaning of any Act of Congress, or of any ruling, regulation, or interpretation of the various administrative bureaus and agencies of the United States, the word 'marriage' means only a legal union between one man and one woman as husband and wife, and the word 'spouse' refers only to a person of the opposite sex who is a husband or a wife."

What I find remarkable about this entire discussion on gay marriage is the fact that the Federal Government needs a definition of marriage to admimister federal programs such as Social Security, federal pensions, survivior benefits etc. It is not just a states' rights issue.

The danger lies in the courts overruling DOMA as being unconstitutional, which is why a Consitutional amendment may be necessary to end this issue once and for all.

50 posted on 02/28/2004 8:58:41 AM PST by kabar
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I hope you are all happy now, you insensitive, intolerant bigots! >sarcasm<

You know, I am against gay marriage but I do love the show QEFTSG. I occassionally visit a messageboard for the show and until recently only the show was discussed and not politics. Not anymore! The gay activists have invaded and turned it into their personal political activist group. Now all they do is bitch and moan how *intolerant*, *insensitive*, *racist*, and *hateful* conservatives are. Yet it*s perfectly fine for them to talk about how much they hate Bush and conservatives and even the Mel Gibson movie, The Passion (which they haven*t even seen!). No, I don*t think I*ll be visiting that lion*s den again as you cannot reason with them. They've ruined it just as they're trying to turn the definition of marriage around for their own selfigh agenda.

57 posted on 02/28/2004 8:41:15 PM PST by dougherty (I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. **-Michelangelo)
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