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Bush Budget Said to Cause $2.75T Deficits
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Posted on 02/27/2004 2:28:18 PM PST by KantianBurke

WASHINGTON - President Bush (news - web sites)'s budget would produce deficits totaling $2.75 trillion over the next decade, the Congressional Budget Office (news - web sites) projected Friday in the first authoritative look at the plan's longer-range implications.

The forecast — $737 billion worse than the budget office expects should Congress ignore Bush's tax and spending plans — is sure to factor into this year's presidential and congressional campaigns.

Bush sent lawmakers a $2.4 trillion budget for 2005 on Feb. 2, but it projected outward only for five years. The White House argues that longer-range forecasts are guesswork, but Democrats say the administration wants to hide future deficits that will career out of control as baby boomers begin to retire.

The nonpartisan budget office also forecast that Bush's fiscal plans would produce deficits of $478 billion this year and $356 billion in 2005. Both figures are smaller than the shortfalls Bush has projected for those years.

For the decade ending in 2014, however, annual shortfalls never would be smaller than $242 billion, which would occur in 2007, the budget office said. After that, they would bounce as high as $289 billion in 2014.

Last year's shortfall, which exceeded $374 billion, was the largest ever in dollar terms.

"These are permanent, structural deficits we will never dig our way out of if we follow in the president's path," said Thomas Kahn, Democratic staff director of the House Budget Committee.

White House budget spokesman Chad Kolton said there frequently are major differences when two organizations make long-range forecasts of entities as huge as the federal budget and the U.S. economy.

But, he said, "Looking at the first five years of CBO's forecast, it shows we cut the deficit in half within five years" — one of Bush's budget goals.

Two days ago, Federal Reserve (news - web sites) Chairman Alan Greenspan (news - web sites) focused attention on the government's long-term fiscal problems by suggesting cuts in Social Security (news - web sites) benefits to ease cascading red ink. Members of both parties quickly disavowed benefit reductions.

Democrats, though, hope to use the prospect of massive, unrelenting shortfalls as a symbol of what they say is Bush's mismanagement of the economy. Republicans blame the red ink on recession and the costs of war and terror and say Bush has focused his attention on those problems instead of balancing the government's books.

Yet underlining their sensitivity to the deficit problem, six conservative senators sent a letter this week asking Senate Budget Committee Chairman Don Nickles, R-Okla., to produce a fiscal blueprint for balancing the budget in seven years. That would exceed Bush's goal of halving shortfalls in five years.

One major item omitted by Bush's budget but included in Friday's projections was the cost of his proposal to make tax cuts permanent that otherwise would expire in 2010. Bush's tax plans would add more than $1.3 trillion to deficits over the decade, although his plans to curb domestic spending would save $700 billion over that same period, the budget office said.

Wary of the impact on deficits, Republican congressional leaders already have said they will not move this year on Bush's proposal to extend the tax cuts, which is the pillar of his plan for strengthening the economy.

The top two Democratic presidential contenders, Sens. John Kerry (news - web sites) of Massachusetts and John Edwards (news - web sites) of North Carolina, have said they would roll back the reductions for the wealthiest Americans.

Just two years ago, the budget office and Bush envisioned surpluses totaling $5.6 trillion for the decade ending in 2011. The projections released Friday cover a slightly different period, the 10 years running through 2014. Even so, the contrast is striking.


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KEYWORDS: budget; bush; bushbudget; deficit
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Checked and didn't see this posted. Admin Mod, feel free to move.

The young and working class are going to be cursing that "free" pill plan of Dubya's if this estimate turns out to be correct. Possible if though.

1 posted on 02/27/2004 2:28:19 PM PST by KantianBurke
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To: KantianBurke
Horse hockey!

The budget changes every year... they are projecting it out to ten years based on this year's budget.

Mule fritters!
2 posted on 02/27/2004 2:31:40 PM PST by Lunatic Fringe ("Fellow citizens, we cannot escape history." -Abraham Lincoln, 1862)
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To: KantianBurke
Spending is out of control.

The way to fix this is not to tax more to pay for the out of control spending, it's to spend less.

Unfortunately, it appears even the GOP doesn't want to make the Bush tax cuts permanent, which means we are going to have a massive tax increase down the line. And that will hurt the country even more.
3 posted on 02/27/2004 2:32:45 PM PST by tomahawk
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To: KantianBurke
oh yes,bushes fault,bushes fault bushes fault

cant we just take all the leftists in this country for a dirt nap? grrr im soo sick of these assholes theyll never investgate any facts its just bush is bad bush is bad yada yada

it gets so repetitive it gives me a f'n headache

4 posted on 02/27/2004 2:35:05 PM PST by MetalHeadConservative35 (Paintball : the war never ends..and neither does the fun)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Doncha love these ten year bogus forcasts!
5 posted on 02/27/2004 2:35:57 PM PST by Cold Heat (In politics stupidity is not a handicap. --Napoleon Bonapart)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Based on those projections, I deduce the true Deficit to be $275 Trillion (over the next 1000 years).
6 posted on 02/27/2004 2:37:15 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Lunatic Fringe
The budget changes every year... they are projecting it out to ten years based on this year's budget.

Absolutely. It changes every 6 months. I would find it hard to believe that any business in America seriously considers a 10 year projection as accurate. Sure, it's a plan, but even the best laid plans... well you know the rest. Too many variables that even the slickest computer models can't accurately predict.

7 posted on 02/27/2004 2:38:59 PM PST by b4its2late (A thing not worth doing isn't worth doing well.)
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To: KantianBurke
The young and working class are going to be cursing that "free" pill plan of Dubya's if this estimate turns out to be correct. Possible if though

Actually they would be cursing a 100 times more if the demo plan went through, but you seem to point all your vitriol at Bush and the Pubbies while silent about the demos.

8 posted on 02/27/2004 2:40:59 PM PST by Dane
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To: MetalHeadConservative35
President "No Veto" gets most of the reponsibility for this mess. He twisted a lot of Republican arms in congress to get them to go along.
9 posted on 02/27/2004 2:43:09 PM PST by Moonman62
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To: KantianBurke
-Speaking for myself, these continued complaints about spending and the deficit over the past year and a half fall on deaf ears, whenever they make no acknowledgment of the fact that WE ARE IN A F**KING WAR.

-In this case, do you think it'd be ok if I place just about as much credence in the notion that projected out to 10 years we have a large deficit, as I did in the notion that under Clinton, projected out to X years, we had a huge "surplus"? In other words I'll start believing in this huge projected deficit when Clinton's "surplus" actually materializes, not sooner.

10 posted on 02/27/2004 2:53:12 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: KantianBurke
The young and working class are going to be cursing that "free" pill plan of Dubya's if this estimate turns out to be correct.

Personally I would be cursing any ham-fisted politician who was so politically inept that he handed over the war on terrorism, judiciary and economic beliefs to the likes of John Kerry. What's the price tag on these things?

11 posted on 02/27/2004 2:58:08 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: Dr. Frank fan
WE ARE IN A F**KING WAR

How does the "free pills for granny" act or the 15 billion giveaway for AIDS in Africa have to do with the WOT?
12 posted on 02/27/2004 3:04:58 PM PST by KantianBurke (Principles, not blind loyalty)
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To: Dolphy
Personally I would be cursing any ham-fisted politician who was so politically inept that he handed over the war on terrorism, judiciary and economic beliefs to the likes of John Kerry. What's the price tag on these things?

If President Ham-fisted loses to John Kerry, it won't be because he lost independents or cross-over voters. It'll be because he lost fiscal conservatives and fiscal moderates, while giving unbelievable excuses for his big government policies.

13 posted on 02/27/2004 3:05:06 PM PST by Moonman62
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To: KantianBurke
Must be Friday afternoon.
14 posted on 02/27/2004 3:06:05 PM PST by OneTimeLurker
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To: Lunatic Fringe
The budget changes every year... they are projecting it out to ten years based on this year's budget.

Guess they forgot that part in the article huh?

15 posted on 02/27/2004 3:08:28 PM PST by Mo1 (THE CUSTER CONSERVATIVES: "Not Smart... But Principled, Dammit!)
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2.75 T divided by 10 years is a very manageable yearly deficit, particularly as GDP grows, and it shouldn't be too tuff to pare it down further, with a modicum of spending restraint.

Yahoo is playing on the mathematical/economic ignorance of its readers.

16 posted on 02/27/2004 3:20:58 PM PST by Mr. Buzzcut
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To: Dane
This is what happens when both GOP and Dems spend like crazy. And the GOP has proven it can spend as much or more then the Dems. The budget was in surplus when Bush was elected and now we have huge deficits. Thanks alot GOP.
17 posted on 02/27/2004 3:21:50 PM PST by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: KantianBurke
In ten years a defict of $200 billion will be very small potatoes in comparison to the GDP.
18 posted on 02/27/2004 3:23:30 PM PST by RWR8189 (Its Morning in America Again!)
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To: KantianBurke
"The nonpartisan budget office"

Bull. Everyone has an agenda!

19 posted on 02/27/2004 3:24:01 PM PST by verity
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To: Moonman62
It'll be because he lost fiscal conservatives and fiscal moderates, while giving unbelievable excuses for his big government policies.

Yeah, okay. I'll take a mortgage with a price tag then before I mortgage the future of the judiciary, war on terror, tax cuts, etc. We can all meet up in the future and see what those choices have cost.

20 posted on 02/27/2004 3:24:14 PM PST by Dolphy
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