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Tech Companies Focus on Asia to Expand Jobs
Yahoo! News ^ | 2/27/04 | David Zielenziger - Reuters

Posted on 02/27/2004 10:50:12 AM PST by NormsRevenge

NEW YORK (Reuters) -

Technology companies are seeing a rebound in business, but top executives this week said any jobs added to meet growing demand will likely be in countries where labor is cheaper than the United States.

Executives speaking at the Reuters Technology, Media and Telecommunications Summit in New York said they see increased hiring in countries like India and China, but few jobs will be added in the United States.

Michael Jordan, chief executive of technology services provider Electronic Data Systems Corp. (NYSE:EDS - news) said EDS's number of employees in low-cost locations like India will rise to 20,000 from 9,000, by 2006.

Bruce Claflin, chief executive of network products maker 3Com Corp. (NasdaqNM:COMS - news) said the company's joint-venture with Huawei Technologies of China will add 1,000 engineers, all supplied by Huawei.

In the future, customers "won't know where the technology comes from," Claflin said.

Anne Mulcahy, chief executive of Xerox Corp. (NYSE:XRX - news), which has about 40 percent of its 60,000 employees outside the U.S., expects little hiring. "I don't really think we'll be adding people the way we used to," she said. Xerox has already handed over manufacturing of most printers to Flextronics International Ltd. (NasdaqNM:FLEX - news) of Singapore.

Only a few companies, such as International Business Machines Corp. (NYSE:IBM - news), the world's No. 1 technology company, have announced plans to add jobs this year. But even IBM, which derives most of its sales abroad, plans to shift jobs to remain competitive.

U.S. technology employment fell 4 percent last year to just below 6 million, the American Electronics Association estimates, the lowest level since 1999. The unemployment rate for electrical and electronics engineers rose to a record 6.2 percent, the Institute for Electrical and Electronics Engineers said.

Ron Hira, a professor at Rochester Institute of Technology who analyzes manpower for the IEEE, said a recent decrease in the U.S. government's outlook for employment growth reflects the move to send U.S. technology jobs abroad.

Non-U.S. technology companies had a banner year in 2003. Jim Thomas, U.S. marketing vice president for Tata Consultancy Services of India, said Tata had double-digit growth in the United States, estimating overall U.S. business reached almost $1 billion from $880 million in fiscal 2002.

Tata, India's largest technology services company, saw "across the board" gains in many U.S. sectors, Thomas said.

Tata, which is privately held, as well as the publicly traded Indian service companies like the Wipro Technologies unit of Wipro Ltd. (WIPR.BO) and Infosys Technologies (INFY.BO) have ramped up U.S. sales.

In response, more than a dozen states are considering legislation to ban hiring non-U.S. workers to handle government contracts but none has passed yet. Indiana's Senate this month passed such a law but its House hasn't acted yet, said Sen. Jeff Drozda, its Republican sponsor.

In New Jersey, Sen. Shirley Turner, sponsor of a similar bill, said, "We are shooting ourselves in the head if we don't adopt protective laws."

But EDS's Jordan said such moves are ill-advised, preferring federal programs that could invoke existing trade-adjustment laws.

"There are lots of ways to skin the productivity cat," Jordan said. "India's only one of them."

Michael Turner, president of the Information Technology Institute, an industry study group, said European countries that have laws prohibiting the transfer of personal data abroad may be better protected against offshoring.

Some institutional shareholders also plan to take a stand. Dan Steininger, chief executive of Catholic Knights, a Milwaukee-based mutual funds group with assets around $1 billion, said he plans to introduce resolutions to deal with offshoring this year.

"CEOs never think of reducing their own pay," Steininger said. "Why do they always think the pain must start out at the bottom?"


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: expandjobs; focusonasia; jobs; techcompanies; trade
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1 posted on 02/27/2004 10:50:12 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: PAC67
This ISN'T a 'Jobless Recovery'.

Yep, just not American jobs. There will come a time we will not be able to buy their products. The outsourcing done so far has not decreased prices. They are keeping all the money themselves which is their right but they do not see the downfall it will create when Americans, white Americans are without jobs.

3 posted on 02/27/2004 11:02:30 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: NormsRevenge
the free traders will be on here any minute to figure out some way to tell us this isn't really true.
4 posted on 02/27/2004 11:04:05 AM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview
That's allright. If this keeps up (and I believe it will) they will find themselves and people they know out of work too with no place to go but down.
6 posted on 02/27/2004 11:07:10 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: NormsRevenge
In the future, customers "won't know where the technology comes from," Claflin said.

Well once the Ideas are gone from America we are finished.

7 posted on 02/27/2004 11:07:30 AM PST by ColdSteelTalon
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To: snippy_about_it
they all feel they are safe. but they never identify what industries they work in so we can evaluate why they feel that way.
8 posted on 02/27/2004 11:08:46 AM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview
Or they will tell us this is god for America.
9 posted on 02/27/2004 11:10:01 AM PST by TXBSAFH (KILL-9 needs no justification.)
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To: NormsRevenge
become a CEO or perish.........
10 posted on 02/27/2004 11:10:19 AM PST by international american (Kerry has hired a full time clerk to keep track of his lies..........)
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To: oceanview
What I've seen has been slow but advancing. If you work for a company you first train consultants, then H1b consultants, then it's over. If you become a consultant yourself, it will last a short while and then again the company will begin with adding more H1b's and then if they want to cut more of there costs they just ship the whole thing to India, China, Taiwan, Phillippines, Mexico, etc.
11 posted on 02/27/2004 11:13:32 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: international american
Better yet, outsource CEO and senior management positions to India or Asia and keep hundreds of U.S. jobs. This really makes sense when you consider the multiplier effect.
12 posted on 02/27/2004 11:15:16 AM PST by sweetjane
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To: NormsRevenge
Oh great. Five years in college, and now my son can see his jobs outsourced for the rest of his life. Wonder if he'll enjoy flipping burgers at McDonalds?

Thank you one world government lovers. The nation state is dead, and our politicians have sold America down the river by becoming the lap dogs of the corporations and the open borders society.

13 posted on 02/27/2004 11:18:23 AM PST by swampfox98 (Beyond 2004 - Chaos! 200 million illegals waiting in the wings)
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To: NormsRevenge
Mr. Bush, please tell me, again, how outsourcing of American jobs is good for the economy? I'm afraid I just don't get it. My vote will go to Ralphy boy. Bush will get back in but at least I can say I wasn't responsible for that, at least this time around. By the way, all of you so called free marketers should remember that tariffs and duties funded the U.S. government long before we had any kind of suppressive income taxation. Think about it. The gov. could make it much less attractive to outsource through taxes and tariffs. Many other countries, including India, put a high tax on American goods. Screw 'em. If they want a trade war, we can bury them.
14 posted on 02/27/2004 11:21:50 AM PST by NYDave
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To: swampfox98
what degree(s) does your son have?

if he in in tech, tell him to get an MBA. Or become a techie in the sales and marketing division, they work on customer proposals that contain technical information, client visits, on site client support, etc. those are good areas to be in.

but if he is targetting a pure "in front of the computer" job, forget it. get him out of there, its a total dead end.
15 posted on 02/27/2004 11:22:35 AM PST by oceanview
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To: swampfox98
another idea, if he could get any job that would get him a government security clearance, tell him to go for it. its a valuable thing to have and the foreign nationals cannot get them.
16 posted on 02/27/2004 11:24:11 AM PST by oceanview
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To: NYDave
This is a very simple concept: A nation must produce wealth in order to be a wealthy nation. Wealth may be defined as products or services that others purchase. As more and more wealth production is moved overseas the ability of the nation to produce wealth declines and as it declines so does the purchasing power of it's citizens.

Really very simple, the free trade argument is that in the long run a nation benefits from free trade as it produces the things it has an advantage in producing and buys the things that can be produced else where cheaper. The problem with the argument is what if the nation can't produce goods or services as cheaply as it trading partners can? In a free market trade partners would simply stop trading with the unproductive nation, thereby forcing the unproductive nation to develop its domestic ability to produce. Government can accomplish a similar effect with tariffs.

But what we have today isn't free trade by any means, India and China are high tariffs nations that use tariffs to develop their domestic industries while we dismantle and ship overseas our plants and service industries. The effect of which is a transfer of wealth from the USA and it's citizens to foreign nations and it citizens. This transfer of wealth is of course reducing our ability to fund government, and slowly impoverishing the citizenry. But it gets even worse for the USA as our military grows ever more reliant on foriegn suppliers for critical supplies endangering national security. But it gets even worse for the USA, as entry level job opportunities disappear and young people turn to drugs and crime to support themselves. But it gets even worse for the USA as necessity the the mother of invention and all problems associated with wealth creation move overseas so do the invention of new procedures and innovations in manufacturing move over seas.

Now if yall think this is a good things then yall hate the USA and seek to destroy this country and its people.

17 posted on 02/27/2004 11:27:31 AM PST by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: NormsRevenge
bookmark bump
18 posted on 02/27/2004 11:33:35 AM PST by RogueIsland
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To: oceanview
I have an MBA and 30 years in high tech.

I'm still unemployed.
19 posted on 02/27/2004 11:34:15 AM PST by DustyMoment (ong about that!)
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To: jpsb
Worst writer on the net, my $$!!

This is one of the most thoughtful, intelligent pieces I have read in years!!!!

20 posted on 02/27/2004 11:35:36 AM PST by international american (Kerry has hired a full time clerk to keep track of his lies..........)
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