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Gibson's 'Passion' is devastating, uplifting
Los Angeles Daily News ^ | 2.26.04 | Chris Weinkopf

Posted on 02/27/2004 12:35:29 AM PST by ambrose

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To: Matthew Paul
A wonderful review.
21 posted on 02/27/2004 3:57:03 AM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: Tempest
I saw it last night (Thursday) with two hundred from my church family, then we went back to the church for praise and worship (and decompression).
I had two main impressions:
1) A (potentially) great tool for evangelizing.
3) A great preparation for the comming dark days of persecution of the remnant church of Jesus Christ on the earth. (Oh, it IS comming, and it's going to get REAL nasty).

Also, it dispels the notion that evil is just a "concept" and not related to any real entity. Satan is real, and he is after our hearts.

22 posted on 02/27/2004 3:58:42 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is a war room".)
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To: gww1210
It was His sinless life, not His gruesome death, that saved us.

Absolutely off the mark. If this was so, Jesus would just have needed to live a full life of 70+ years sinless, and then die peacefully. It was the death/sacrifice of a sinless life that saved us. Blood had to be shed to make atonement for sin. Anyone who claims otherwise simply has no understanding.

24 posted on 02/27/2004 4:13:12 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: beekeeper
ping
25 posted on 02/27/2004 4:15:55 AM PST by KeyWest
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To: AmericaUnited
I tried posting an answer to you a moment ago, but it appeared in another thread! grr... (sorry) Let me try again!

Here's my reply:

Gordon W. Watts aka Gww1210, a quote: "It was His sinless life, not His gruesome death, that saved us."

AmericanInited answers me here: Absolutely off the mark. If this was so, Jesus would just have needed to live a full life of 70+ years sinless, and then die peacefully. It was the death/sacrifice of a sinless life that saved us. Blood had to be shed to make atonement for sin. Anyone who claims otherwise simply has no understanding.

To: AmericaUnited
You may be right: Remember I am only human.

Gww1210 replies: However, the point I was making (whether I got it right or not) was that it was the entire package that was needed for our salvation (birth, spottless life for an example, death, ressurection, assention to be our righterous Advocate, as First John 2:1 says, etc.)

I.e., The shed blood and death alone was not enough -or else he woulda done that as soon as being born!

Gordon Wayne Watts
27 posted on 02/27/2004 4:39:56 AM PST by gww1210 (Gordon Watts to news media: Myths about Schiavo need to be debunked!)
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To: ambrose
. . ."The Passion" isn't meant to appeal to our morbid fascinations, but to horrify us with the ugliness and the brutality of the sins we commit every day.
It explicitly documents the evilness of men in this, a culture that often denies the existence of evil.

Amen.

28 posted on 02/27/2004 4:51:03 AM PST by mombonn
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To: ambrose
Wonderful, accurate review.
29 posted on 02/27/2004 5:05:18 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Matthew Paul
Catholic bishops and priests who have already had an opportunity to see the movie say it is one of the best cinema productions ever.

They're wrong. It's the best cinema production ever. 8-)

30 posted on 02/27/2004 5:08:04 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Matthew Paul
Awesome news. Ping me when it comes out and tell us about it please.

Blessings.

31 posted on 02/27/2004 5:21:05 AM PST by SpookBrat
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To: Qwinn
You may be agnostic, but you have the heart of a lion.

Your erudite and sustained defense of The Passion is most admirable and very moving.

33 posted on 02/27/2004 11:07:55 AM PST by AlbionGirl ("Ha cambiato occhi per la coda.")
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To: ambrose
"The Passion" isn't meant to appeal to our morbid fascinations, but to horrify us with the ugliness and the brutality of the sins we commit every day.

I suspect this is what bugs Hollywood. A depiction of violence that is ugly rather than amusing or entertaining. In a world of Kill Bills and Pulp Fictions, we can't have that. Might dry up the money machine.

34 posted on 02/27/2004 11:15:24 AM PST by js1138
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To: ambrose
This was no angry mob out to launch a pogrom. Hardly.

Guess he wasn't in the same audience as Maureen Dowdy.

Ms. Buzzcut and I plan to see it on Good Friday.

35 posted on 02/27/2004 3:33:14 PM PST by Mr. Buzzcut
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To: ambrose
bttt
36 posted on 02/27/2004 3:35:08 PM PST by votelife (Elect a Filibuster Proof Majority)
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To: ambrose; onyx
Wonderful, ambrose!

Thanks for the ping, onyx.

It is as it was bump!

37 posted on 02/27/2004 5:04:41 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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To: js1138
I think you are absolutely right. In most movies, including Mel's earlier films, violence was meant for our pleasure, our titillation, our need to exact revenge and feel powerful. This film exposes the grotesque reality of violence, stripped and raw.
38 posted on 02/27/2004 5:13:52 PM PST by glaux
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To: nutmeg
bttt
39 posted on 02/27/2004 11:23:00 PM PST by nutmeg (Why vote for Bush? Imagine Commander in Chief John F’in Kerry)
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