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To: Hodar
By the nature of the Theology degree, the recipient will only benefit the members of his congregation.

Another false assertion. Neither you nor the state has any idea what the recipient of a degree in Theology will do with it. Do you mean to tell me that only clergy study Theology? What a sad commentary on a public school system.

Where as a medical, humanities, engineering, software, arts and other degrees benefit everyone; regardless of religous affiliation.

You can't back up your assertion at all. Theology graduates pay taxes just like anybody else. I don't know what your degree is in but whatever it is in you have not benefited me an iota. The Constitution is not concerned with cost/benefit at any rate, it is concerned with equal protection under the law and the First Amendment explicitly acknowledges that religion is to be exercised freely.

No one is saying that you may not pursue this field of study, but the Supreme Court did say that it is up to the individual state to determine what fields of study will be supported. In this case, if you feel that you need to pursue a Theology degree, you are free to do so. You just cannot stick the taxpayers with the bill.

LOL, I am and always have been a net contributor. I paid my bills at college as well as my kids bills and I will pay for my grandkids bills as well, God willing.

I feel no need to pursue a Theology degree but I certainly feel the need to defend those who adhere to a religion from the secularists.

Neutrality would require them to honor the scholarship for all fields of study, including religion, or simply eliminating the scholarship program altogether. Either way would be OK by me.

77 posted on 02/25/2004 11:30:46 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
Do you mean to tell me that only clergy study Theology?

Well, I would guess Clergy and some night managers at McDonalds. There just isn't much you can do with a Theology degree, it's intended target is the religion for which it is taught.

Theology graduates pay taxes just like anybody else. I don't know what your degree is in but whatever it is in you have not benefited me an iota.

Really? Gosh, I guess my work at AMD, Intel and Cray was all just a waste of time, then. Engineers, Medical doctors, Roadway Engineers, Lawyers, Pharmacists, Mechanical Engineers, Nurses, Teachers, Dentists and thousands of other careers all exist because of your tax dollars. I would say that your statement was naive in the extreme. There is more than even money that you wouldn't even be alive if it weren't for a sub-set of these folks. I know I would have died about 5 years ago without the services of a skilled surgeon. The surgeon went to a school, and this school was funded in part by tax dollars. No tax dollars, no school. No school, no surgeon. No surgeon, no Hodar. Pretty straightforward.

The Constitution is not concerned with cost/benefit at any rate, it is concerned with equal protection under the law and the First Amendment explicitly acknowledges that religion is to be exercised freely.

And we agree 100% here. However, by granting $x to the Lutheran Theologies that the Mormons/Buddhist/Wiccan/Atheists are ineligible to participate in is discriminatory. This falls into the same clause as the tax dollars that went to 'Male Only' cadet schools. You can't fund specific groups, without making the attempt to fund all groups. You can't provide federal funding to the Boy Scouts, and deny the Girl Scouts, or the Elks Club, or the VFW, KKK or NAMBLA. Now, if this student had decided to study Theological history, I doubt that there would be a problem.

I feel no need to pursue a Theology degree but I certainly feel the need to defend those who adhere to a religion from the secularists.

Thus, you would want to take tax dollars to fund Muslim students for their 'Mullah' training, and for their Hajj? If you fund one religion, you must fund them all. I would rather chose to have the church fund their own. I do know of several churches who do send members to Seminary, and fund the costs from within their church. Again, this is as it should be.

89 posted on 02/25/2004 11:49:54 AM PST by Hodar (With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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