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C-Span Alert (Debate begins this morning @ 9:30am on S. 1805 & Assasult Weapons Ban Renewal)

Posted on 02/25/2004 4:47:28 AM PST by conservativefromGa

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To: Shooter 2.5
I'd tell ya to watch online but that's broke right now.
41 posted on 02/25/2004 6:59:44 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: templar
As of yet, there are no amendments to the bill. Feinstein, Schmer and Warner will try to add an amendment extending the AWB this morning. You need to call you Senator and tell them to vote AGAINST the Feinstein amendment and FOR the passage of 1805 without the amendment.
42 posted on 02/25/2004 6:59:54 AM PST by larrysav
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To: larrysav
Feinstein, Schmer and Warner will try to add an amendment extending the AWB this morning. You need to call you Senator...

I called my Senator (Warner, R-VA) yesterday. Obviously it didn't help.

43 posted on 02/25/2004 7:02:32 AM PST by gieriscm (The AW ban sunsets on 09/13/2004)
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To: larrysav
bringing up DC sniper
usual bs
44 posted on 02/25/2004 7:04:49 AM PST by conservativefromGa (www.AWBanSunset.com)
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To: Mo1
I FOUND A BACKUP!!!!

http://www.fednet.net/
45 posted on 02/25/2004 7:06:40 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Shooter 2.5
http://www.fednet.net/

Try this.
46 posted on 02/25/2004 7:09:51 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: conservativefromGa
ENERGY POLICY ACT OF 2003--CONFERENCE REPORT--Continued -- (Senate - November 19, 2003)

EXCERPT from Mr. SESSIONS.

You can say, well, they made MTBE and it got into the water system in this community; therefore, the maker of MTBE ought to pay for it. They say that is what the law ought to be and they ought to pay.

Would somebody say Folgers should be responsible if a Folgers brand of hot coffee burned somebody in a McDonald's restaurant, or that McDonald's should be liable? If somebody takes a can of Campbell's soup and smashes a guy on the head with it, is the maker of the can of soup liable? Certainly not.

Let me share a couple of things. After 9/11, we realized we were facing a situation in which airlines had suffered a dramatic loss of ridership. Somebody woke up and said: Wait a minute, they are going to sue the airlines for 9/11. Why? Well, maybe somebody was asleep at the switch when a terrorist got by, so we can sue them. They think the airlines have a lot of money and they can pay for everybody and everybody will make lots of money. We can attach liability to them.

Congress, in considering that, passed legislation that would compensate the victims in New Jersey and their families for $1 million or $2 million each. As a consequence of that, they would waive liability claims against the company. The airlines' planes were seized, commandeered by terrorists. In truth, in the history of America, under classical law, the airlines are victims just as much as the owner of the Trade Center towers is a victim. We are in a situation in which the lawsuits in America, having eroded classical constraints on them, too often are successful in suing whoever is standing around--whether they have any real liability or not.

I think about the gun liability question. There are over 60 Senators, including Democratic Leader Tom Daschle, who support legislation to protect gun manufacturers, under certain circumstances, from liability. Why? Because cities and other groups, for political reasons, are suing the gun manufacturers because someone used their gun and committed a crime with it.

Well, under the classical rule of law--and I used this defense in one case--a person is not responsible for an intervening criminal act. The gun manufacturers make a gun that does what it is supposed to do. You aim it and point it and a bullet hits something or somebody. That is what the gun is supposed to do. The Federal Government passes legislation about how and to whom you can sell a gun, under what circumstances. They have to sign a statement, and there is a waiting period. They have to certify that they are not a drug addict or they have not been convicted of a felony. Then they can buy the gun, under certain circumstances. States have even more rules, and they comply with that. But they want to go further. They want to sue the gun manufacturer because somebody took a legal product, sold according to Federal law, and used it for a crime. They want to sue the gun manufacturer because I guess they think the gun manufacturers have a deep pocket of money. That is not what we ought to be about.

47 posted on 02/25/2004 7:20:56 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Shooter 2.5; Mo1; StriperSniper
Da' Swimmer is up.
48 posted on 02/25/2004 7:21:48 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA
Thank you for the live feed. This is great. It's even playing while I'm writing right now.

Oops. Teddy the swimmer is on. I can't watch that. It would cost me a monitor.
49 posted on 02/25/2004 7:22:07 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Here we go, there voting on Cloture.


They haven't stuck any amendments on this right?
50 posted on 02/25/2004 7:32:27 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Shooter 2.5
They are closing the debate right now. They will next move to vote up or down the ammendments to the bill next.
51 posted on 02/25/2004 7:33:23 AM PST by RockChucker
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To: RockChucker
This is the bill we need to watch out for.

Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2003 (Introduced in Senate)

S 1034 IS

52 posted on 02/25/2004 7:36:56 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: conservativefromGa
Roll Call Vote on Cloture now. That will be posted here when ready.
53 posted on 02/25/2004 7:38:06 AM PST by Dan from Michigan ("You know it don't come easy, the road of the gypsy" - Iron Eagle)
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To: All

STABENOW CAVED????


54 posted on 02/25/2004 7:42:36 AM PST by Dan from Michigan ("You know it don't come easy, the road of the gypsy" - Iron Eagle)
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To: OXENinFLA
Perhaps these banners are not ready with the support for the AWB ammendments.

(forgive my spelling... it's audio)

Here are the 'no's to end debate:

Kennedy 'no'.

Reed (RI) 'no'.

Wyden 'no'.

Hollings 'no'.

Dodge 'no'.

Noway 'no'.

Murry 'no'.

Dewine 'no'.

So far, the 'eyes' seem to be in the majority.....









55 posted on 02/25/2004 7:43:19 AM PST by RockChucker
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To: Dan from Michigan
Stabenow said Yes, end debate, correct?
56 posted on 02/25/2004 7:43:46 AM PST by RockChucker
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To: OXENinFLA
I saw him, but the best part was when Sen. Craig pointed out that Dodd was opposing the bill that would save jobs back in his home state and then wouldn't yeild to him when he tried to b***h about being called on it. LOL! ;-)
57 posted on 02/25/2004 7:44:08 AM PST by StriperSniper (Manuel Miranda - Whistleblower)
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To: RockChucker
The 'eyes' are winning.....

Rockefeller 'no'.

Schumer 'no'.

Rockefeller 'eye' ? Are there 2 of these guys?

More to come....
58 posted on 02/25/2004 7:45:34 AM PST by RockChucker
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To: Dan from Michigan
Caved what?, the floor?
59 posted on 02/25/2004 7:45:42 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: RockChucker
That's what it sounded like to me.

I'm shocked.

60 posted on 02/25/2004 7:46:22 AM PST by Dan from Michigan ("You know it don't come easy, the road of the gypsy" - Iron Eagle)
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