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Earth almost put on impact alert
http://news.bbc.co.uk ^ | Tuesday, 24 February, 2004, 17:33 GMT | Dr. David Whitehouse

Posted on 02/24/2004 11:34:28 AM PST by GeraldP

Some scientists believed on 13 January that a 30m object, later designated 2004 AS1, had a one-in-four chance of hitting the planet within 36 hours.

It could have caused local devastation and the researchers contemplated a call to President Bush before new data finally showed there was no danger.

The procedures for raising the alarm in such circumstances are now being revised.

At the time, the president's team would have been putting the final touches to a speech he was due to make the following day at the headquarters of Nasa, the US space agency.

In it he planned to reset the course of manned spaceflight, sending it back to the Moon and on to Mars, but he could have had something very different to say.

If... the call had been made to the president it would have been disastrous

Brian Marsden, Minor Planet Center He could have begun by warning the world it was about to be hit by a space rock.

Bush would not have known where it would impact - only somewhere in the Northern Hemisphere. Experts would have been bouncing radar signals off the huge rock as he spoke in order to get more information about its trajectory.

At about 30m wide, the asteroid was cosmic small fry, not the type of thing to wipe out the dinosaurs or threaten our species, but still big enough to cause considerable damage after exploding in the atmosphere.

Potentially, the loss of life could have been much worse than 11 September.

In the end, Bush made no such announcement, but astronomers have admitted they were on the verge of making the call.

Shall we call the President?

In a paper presented at this week's Planetary Protection conference in California, veteran asteroid researcher Clark Chapman calls it a "nine-hour crisis".

He explains how word reached the astronomical community of an asteroid that had just been discovered by the twin optical telescopes of the Linear automated sky survey in New Mexico.

Bush's Nasa speech might have taken a different turn The Minor Planet Center in Massachusetts - the clearing house for such observations - posted details on the internet requesting attention from astronomers, one of whom noticed something peculiar.

The object was expected to grow 40-times brighter in the next day - a possible sign that it was getting closer, very rapidly.

But with data from just four observations available, the uncertainties were large. There were many possible orbits the object could be on, and the majority of them did not threaten the Earth.

What to do? Tell the world about the uncertain situation or wait for more data?

For some astronomers, events reached a crescendo when Steven Chesley, a researcher at Nasa's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, looked at the available data and sent an e-mail saying the asteroid had a 25% chance of striking the Earth's Northern Hemisphere in a few days.

It was then that astronomers Clark Chapman and David Morrison, chair of the International Astronomical Union's Working Group on Near Earth Objects, contemplated picking up the telephone to the White House.

'Jumped the gun'

But many astronomers did not agree that waking up President Bush would have been wise.

"They completely misread the situation," said Benny Peiser of Liverpool John Moores University in the UK. "There was plenty of time to get other observers on the job."

Others also believe the call would have been premature.

"That would have jumped the gun before we knew much about the object," said Brian Marsden, of the Minor Planet Center.

Chapman was close to raising alarm "I find it incredible that such action was contemplated on the basis of just four observations. That is just not enough to yield a sensible orbit.

"There was no need to panic as it was obvious that the situation would have been resolved, one way or another, in another hour or two," he told BBC News Online.

Fortunately for all concerned, shortly after the ominous Chesley e-mail, an amateur astronomer managed to dodge the clouds and take a picture of a blank patch of sky.

This was significant because if 2004 AS1 really was going to hit the Earth, it would have been in the amateur's sights. The fact that it was absent meant the rock would not strike us.

But Chapman says in his presentation that if it had been cloudy, and no more observations could have been obtained at the time, he would have raised the alarm.

Marsden disagrees. "If it had been cloudy and the call had been made to the President it would have been disastrous."

Many astronomers recognise that they a false alarm could have brought ridicule on their profession. They are calling for more planning and less panic if it should happen for real next time.

And 2004 AS1? It turned out to be bigger than anyone had thought - about 500m wide. It eventually passed the Earth at a distance of about 12 million km - 32 times the Earth-Moon distance, posing no danger to us whatsoever.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: asteroid; cataclysm; globalkiller; impact
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To: Timesink
Where is the mailing list where such discussions take place? If amateur astronomers can be on it, we can lurk too. Might be fun!

Professional scientists have moved from USEnet to mailing lists to private invitation-only mailing lists to avoid all the bandwidth being taken up by "science kooks" prattling their nonsense theories and abusing actual scientists. It's a shame, because there are plenty of "amateurs" who don't cause trouble but the kooks are horrendous.

61 posted on 02/24/2004 1:52:53 PM PST by John H K
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To: randog
There's a range of estimates of your chances of dying in an asteroid impact, but interestingly the high end of the range is roughly equivalent to your chances of dying in an airplane crash.
62 posted on 02/24/2004 1:57:41 PM PST by John H K
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To: null and void; GeraldP
Actually it's: Hot Fudge Sundae falls on a Tuesdae this week (I think)!
63 posted on 02/24/2004 1:58:30 PM PST by 6ppc
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To: 6ppc
Probably. I'm not where I can check right now. (I think it's next to Malevil, The Earth Abides, and Alas Babylon...)
64 posted on 02/24/2004 2:05:55 PM PST by null and void (Never use a premonition to end a seance with)
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To: Mr. K
but if it is coming right towards us it does not move- we can only tell it is coming by it growing brighter.

It isn't quite that simple for both the asteroid and Earth are in motion. If a just-discovered asteroid is say, three days from impact, it will strike Earth where Earth will be in its orbit 3 days hence. An asteroid approaching from directly ahead or behind along the direction of Earth's travel in its orbit would show little apparent motion; from any other direction, the asteroid's motion against the background stars would be more obvious. Think of it as two cars approaching one another on a one lane road in the first scenario and as two cars, one each on separate but crossing roads approaching a 90 degree intersection in the other.

65 posted on 02/24/2004 2:06:38 PM PST by ngc6656 (Freepaholics Anonymous advisory: Don't freep and drive.)
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To: RightWhale
"That won't leave much time, and even then, what should the citizens do?"

Call up your Y2K critics and tell them you still have your supplies...then laugh.

66 posted on 02/24/2004 5:30:34 PM PST by blam
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To: Ronzo; Poohbah
Did you read Footfall? The impact scene in that book caused the publisher to ask for an entire impact book, impacts were in the news, hence Lucifers Hammer.

Not to be confused with Colonel Alois Hammer!
67 posted on 02/25/2004 9:13:39 AM PST by DBrow
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To: DBrow
Did you read Footfall? The impact scene in that book caused the publisher to ask for an entire impact book, impacts were in the news, hence Lucifers Hammer.

Wrong--Lucifer's Hammer was published about 8 years prior to Footfall.

68 posted on 02/25/2004 12:20:29 PM PST by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Maj. Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: Poohbah
I went to a book signing and Niven was there. He told me his publisher looked at the outline for Footfall and suggested that they stop the Footfall project and write an impact novel instead.
69 posted on 02/25/2004 12:43:19 PM PST by DBrow
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To: GeraldP
It's the end of the world as we know it.
It's the end of the world as we know it.
It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.

70 posted on 02/25/2004 12:44:55 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: GeraldP
Didn't even make the PHA Close Approaches to the Earth list:

PHAs

71 posted on 02/25/2004 12:57:40 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Poohbah
A sort of reference- I can't find my copy of Playgrounds of the Mind but here is a Usenet ref to the same concept:
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> _Footfall_, with Jerry Pournelle
> Fairly self indulgent, and an obvious reworking of many of
> the same basic themes done better in _Lucifer's Hammer_.

That's because both came from the same idea. The alien-invasion story came
first, but the authors became so intrigued with the effects of the meteor
strike that they made it into "Lucifers Hammer". Later, they returned to the
original concept in "Footfall".
(As told by Larry Niven in "Playgrounds of the Mind")
72 posted on 02/25/2004 1:07:26 PM PST by DBrow
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