YCT Challenges Paul Green and Bill Green to Renounce Endorsements from the Austin Chronicle

YOUNG CONSERVATIVES OF TEXAS ^ | February 23, 2004 | David Rushing

[SwinneySwitch]

"...also picked Dennis Kucinich as the Presidential candidate who is "best on the issues."

Apparently they didn't know Nader was going to run!

[WinOne4TheGipper]

I guess you're in Austin. Have you ever been to the Hancock Center HEB?

[JohnnyZ]

has endorsed liberal to moderate Republican judicial candidates Paul Green

What is the evidence that Paul Green is liberal to moderate?

Any?

My impression is that he is a conservative.

[WinOne4TheGipper]

The Chronicle would never endorse a conservative. Green is just the guy Perry picked because he's mad at Smith beating Xavier Rodriguez last time.

[writmeister]

Yet, the YTC endorsed the very liberal Cheryl Johnson for the Court of Criminal Appeals. I have not received a response to my request that they explain that endorsement.

[JohnnyZ]

The Chronicle would never endorse a conservative.

It's a Republican primary with two candidates. There's no liberal to endorse.

[SwinneySwitch]

No, but I did work there years ago.

Is it a "GucciB"?

[WOSG]

"What is the evidence that Paul Green is liberal to moderate?"

I just got off the phone with an activist and campaign guy who is helping some candidates (ie Garcia). He ran into Paul Green at an event. Green was talking about the need for 'an hispanic on the Texas supreme court' and was pro- affirmative action in his comments to some people there. This guys joke to me was "if this guy thinks we need a hispanic on the court, why is he running?"

Of course, a key reason alot of us like Smith is because he is foursquare for equality of opportunity and against racial preferences.

This is all about 'payback' from the moderates for conservative Smith taking on a moderate. The YCT press release also mentions Green's comments to a paper, which confirms the anecdote I've heard.

We need to support Steven Smith.

SAY NO TO THE GREENS.

[WOSG]

It's a Republican primary with two candidates. There's no liberal to endorse.

Wrong! While in most races that would be true, the Bill Green that is running against Ernest Garcia has a history as a liberal democrat, working for a liberal Democrat legislator, on the judicial staff for Democratic judges, and voting for and supporting Democrats.

I cant find anything recognizably Republican or conservative about Bill Green. And that is why the left-wing rag the Austin Chronicle endorsed him!

Now the other guy, Paul Green is a Republican, sure, but IMHO is a 'squishy one', he's the O'Connor wing, while Smith is in the Scalia wing. My vote is for the conservative over the moderate. Again, there is enough of a difference for the leftist Chronicle to recognize the leftists' favorite choice.

[JohnnyZ]

Wrong! While in most races that would be true, the Bill Green that is running against Ernest Garcia

Obviously there are some cases where liberal Republicans run. My comment was in response to the PAUL Green situation. While people are free to argue that Smith is more conservative, whatever, there's no evidence that I've heard to say that Paul Green isn't a conservative.

Frankly, I also suspect the linking of Paul Green with the manifestly objectionable Bill Green is designed to tar Paul by association. That is dishonest.

[WOSG]

"Yet, the YTC endorsed the very liberal Cheryl Johnson for the Court of Criminal Appeals. I have not received a response to my request that they explain that endorsement."

Two questions: How has Johnson ruled and performed in the last 6 years,
and what about the opponent, another woman (forget the name)? Is she better? In what way?

I also was wondering about that one since I dont know first-hand how Johnson has performed, and asked a lawyer who ran himself for Criminal Appeals court race. He said Cheryl Johnson was good and his choice.

[WOSG]

"While people are free to argue that Smith is more conservative, whatever, there's no evidence that I've heard to say that Paul Green isn't a conservative."

First, I was careful to distinguish the two, but I also
mentioned evidence that he's pro-affirmative action judge, and if he's squishy on that, how 'conservative' is that?

So you cant say you havent heard evidence that he's not conservatives. I've given you some.

Besides, Smith has performed well as the incumbent. Why should we in effect 'fire' him? Because he is *too* Conservative? Because his staff has too many conservatives? That's a nutty reason to dump someone in a Republican primary!

[JohnnyZ]

I just got off the phone with an activist and campaign guy who is helping some candidates (ie Garcia). He ran into Paul Green at an event. Green was talking about the need for 'an hispanic on the Texas supreme court' and was pro- affirmative action in his comments to some people there.

So according to hearsay, Paul Green is in favor of racial diversity among elected officials; I certainly wouldn't expect him to be opposed to it! And he supposedly supports "affirmative action" -- or opportunity -- in what form, who knows.

And so one individual part of his philosophy may or may not be questionable.

Besides, Smith has performed well as the incumbent. Why should we in effect 'fire' him?

Smith is a big fan of primaries. That's how he got the job. If he's confident that he's doing a good job, he shouldn't worry. After all, nobody's going to vote against HIM because his last name is the 'wrong' ethnic origin!

[writmeister]

Johnson is too defense-oriented for my taste. She is pretty much a reliable vote for criminal defendants in close (5-4 or 6-3) cases. Noble is more State-oriented -- which is my bias.

[WOSG]

I consider my own source far more reliable than your average, say, Houston Chronicle article :-) it happened and it isnt the only indication. ... dont you find it a *little* suspicious that the liberal Statesman used the Paul Green run to 'highlight' competitive races? hmmmm - why are all the liberal papers talking up the opposition to Smith?

Opposing Smith is all about punishing the 'politically incorrect' who are against affirmative action. Dallas Monring News endorsed Green because of Smith's opposition to affirmative action.

Speaking of hearsay, this news report has Green spreading 'hearsay': In the Longview News-Journal last week, Paul Green claimed that Justice Smith's staff is too conservative. In today's San Antonio Express-News, Green criticized Justice Smith, saying "He's got some agendas related to social issues," apparently suggesting he disagrees with Justice Smith's opposition to racial quotas and abortion.

[WOSG]

Smith is a big fan of primaries. That's how he got the job. If he's confident that he's doing a good job, he shouldn't worry. After all, nobody's going to vote against HIM because his last name is the 'wrong' ethnic origin!

Another point: I knew both Smith and Rodriguez, and I knew Smith won the Hopwood case - I voted for the man who fought against the injustice of racial preferences and was more conservative. I was very insulted when the Austin Statesman insinuated that smith won on bias in 2002.

This primary I am voting for the best person in all slots - not just Smith for Texas Suprem court but also Ernest Garcia for 3rd court of appeals, Victor Carillo for Railroad commissioner, and Joe Martinez for Travis county sheriff. I dont believe in racial preferences in or out of politics and consider it a smear against Republicans to suggest that bias is a factor in primary outcomes.

[Gracey]

Here's my recommendations on Statewide or Area wide elections:

Railroad Commissioner - VICTOR CARRILLO (Incumbent)

Justice, Supreme Court - STEVEN WAYNE SMITH (BEST choice by far - check his proven conservative record including famous Affirmative Action - Hopwood decision - Incumbent)

Judge, Court of Criminal. P2 - LARRY MEYERS (Incumbent)

Judge, Court of Criminal, P5 - PATRICIA NOBLE (kick out the Democrat Cheryl Johnson who ran as an R 6 years ago and won - a conservative man was in the runoff with her and stupid R's voted for her)

Judge, Court of Criminal, P6 - MICHAEL KEASLER (Incumbent)

Justice, 3rd Ct of Appeals, P4 - ERNEST GARCIA (His opponent Green is a Democrat)

Justice, 3rd Ct of Appeals, P6 - BOB PEMBERTON (Incumbent)

TRAVIS COUNTY

Sheriff - JOE MARTINEZ (He's a good man and well qualified. Also, an Hispanic can win easier in the general election in this Democrat county. There are other good choices, but tjeu don't stand a chance to win for stated reason.

[Gracey]

See my post 17

[WOSG]

Thanks, Gracey, we are on the same page, I agree with all your picks, although I havent decided on Patricia Noble vs Cheryl Johnson - I'd like to know more about Noble before pulling the lever for here.

[WOSG]

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