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To: Miss Marple
I do not think the President had to be dragged kicking and screaming to this at all. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he has been ready to go, looking for a good opportunity.

Every president has a hundred issues upon which he would like to act. But he is limited to those issues upon which he can get enough support to prevail.

For example, consider the abortion issue. President Bush is very opposed to abortion and public opinion is even trending his way. But the chances of getting a constitutional amendment outlawing abortion is next to nil. Working hard to try an amendment passed banning abortion is stupid when there is no chance of getting it done.

Headlines saying of "Bush Fails to end abortion" are not helpful.

What presidents can do is act when the iron is hot. Right now the burning issue is homosexual marriage. Bush can and has acted upon it. The people who are criticizing Bush are the far right fringers. The far right fringers are just like the far left fringers. To the far left Earth in the Balance Gore was not Green enough to get their vote. Bet the farm that Kerry is not green or left enough to get their vote either.

To the far right Bush will never be "Right" enough to please them.

If you remember back in 2000, the number of far right posters on this site could lead you to believe that Buchanan and the Libertarians would get 10 million votes each. We know the two right wing fringe parties only got t a half of one percent of the vote each in 2000. They won't do any better in 2004.

The Bush Bashers on the this site are of two categories. The Democrat Disrupters who are trying to ferment trouble in the Bush Camp, and the far right fringers.

Both the far right fringers and the far left fringers are not a factor. No Democrat... not even a Democrat who touts global warming on the coldest day in decades, can please the Greenies as Al Gore proved. No Republican no matter how pro marriage and pro life can win the support of the far right fringe.

The one thing that we know is when the Fringers get a president to do what they want, they claim he is not doing it soon enough or strongly enough. Today's posters are absolute proof of my thesis that the far right is not worthy of our attention.

If someone gave these far right wingers a million dollars, they would be angry as heck because it came in the wrong colored box.


457 posted on 02/24/2004 11:37:37 AM PST by Common Tator
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To: Common Tator; Burkeman1
And as an illustration of your point, Burkeman1 has just announced that President Bush, by proposing this amendment, has "betrayed all conservatives."
471 posted on 02/24/2004 12:15:05 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Common Tator
Excellent post!
481 posted on 02/24/2004 12:44:53 PM PST by livius
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To: Common Tator
Can someone correct me if I'm wrong in my conjecture here?

My problem with gay marriage is that I believe that once you've changed the line from man/woman to "consenting adults", I can't see how one can rule out polygamy. Isn't that discrimination against 3 or 4 or more "consenting adults" in love?

Therefore, I believe the argument becomes economic. Do employers now have to pay benefits for all spouses, no matter how many? Can someone tell me what impact polygamy would have on state & federal benefits? Why has no one brought this up? (Or have I just missed it?)
503 posted on 02/24/2004 1:27:25 PM PST by idget (Be kind to me , please... I'm new...)
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To: Common Tator
Right you are.
506 posted on 02/24/2004 2:05:11 PM PST by nopardons
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