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John Kerry, the Sunshine Soldier (Free Republic Network's WinterSoldier.com)
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | 2/24/04 | Joel Mowbray

Posted on 02/24/2004 1:07:05 AM PST by kattracks

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n excerpt of historian Guenter Lewy’s book According to America posted on WinterSoldier.com discusses the results of a government investigation that attempted to corroborate the claims made at the VVAW event in Detroit. The investigators couldn’t.

According to Lewy, the VVAW had told its members not to cooperate with the government inquiry—a probe that was initiated by Sen. Mark Hatfield of Oregon in order to verify gruesome claims made at the VVAW-sponsored event. The historian also notes that government inspectors found veterans whose names had been used by people testifying in Detroit that were not actually there.

Unfortunately, though, the Naval Investigative Service (NIS) inquiry into the WSI atrocity claims has disappeared.

Great if we could name names of those witnesses who provably lied in the Winter Soldier Investigation, but I have yet to see those names, along with the text of their lies and how we prove the lies.

I've read that Al Hubbard, an executive officer in the VVAW, wrote the foreward to the WSI book, but I don't know if he counts as a witness.

Al Hubbard got debunked - he lied about his rank and apparently didn't go to Vietnam at all. I think if someone queried Kerry about Hubbard, he would readily admit he got fooled, while still upholding the truth of the WSI.

This may change (the appearance of solidity of the WSI) as interest in the topic increases. I see this issue, false atrocity claims, as very important as it challenges a central myth of the left.

More importantly, false atrocity claims make real atrocities easier to dismiss. A concern for all, regardless of party.

Three cheers for wintersoldier.com! It seems like a no-nonsense filter site on this WSI controversy.

Hopefully soon a loud and prominent controversy.

21 posted on 02/24/2004 9:20:16 AM PST by secretagent
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Lewy, in an interview, termed the Winter Soldier project "completely unreliable and untrustworthy" and doubts that Vietnam War atrocities were officially condoned or as widespread as the Detroit testimony indicated.

Lewy does not recall if he saw a copy of the naval investigative report or was briefed on its contents. "I'm quite confident the information is authentic," he said. Paul O'Donnell, a spokesman for the Naval Criminal Investigative Service, said officials were searching for a copy of the report.

http://www.heraldnet.com/Stories/04/2/22/18195438.cfm

Perhaps Kerry got to the NIS report first!

22 posted on 02/24/2004 11:19:45 AM PST by secretagent
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Here is another group denouncing Kerry. Vietnam SF against Kerry.SF Against Kerry
23 posted on 02/24/2004 7:12:37 PM PST by armymarinemom (The family reunion is moving to Iran this year-Central location and a shorter trip for the kids)
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That's a terrific, if somewhat jumbled site. Thanks for the link.
24 posted on 02/24/2004 10:21:06 PM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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Wow...this is very impressive! I didn't realize there were so many sites. The index of all of them was the best.

Every one of these sites should also get people to write to newspapers and ask for a full disclosure of his medals to the American people -- just as President Bush provided when questioned.

Ask for the information, which Kerry has declined to authorized. Ask them why he is declining to open them up for all the world to see.
25 posted on 02/25/2004 4:12:28 PM PST by BushisTheMan
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To: kattracks
Excellent commentary political cartoon by Jack Higgins. Go to: http://www.suntimes.com/index/commentary.html
Click "Higgins" line and scroll back to Chicago Sun-Times, Sunday February 22, 2004.
26 posted on 02/29/2004 3:04:15 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: MEG33
NEVER FORGET



JOHN KERRY called American Soldiers fighting for Freedom during the Vietnam War ...TERRORISTS.

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1320



MEL GIBSON decided he had to do his "PASSION of the Christ" while filming "WE WERE SOLDIERS" ..which is the Amerian Soldier's true story of LOVE and Sacrifice during the Vietnam War.

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=39081


GOD is GOOD.



Signed:.."ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer / Vet-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_collection.htm
(IA DRANG-1965 Photos, 3 Sets)



NEVER FORGET

27 posted on 03/02/2004 8:19:49 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com)
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..A Freeper Vet goes to the Vietnam Wall..

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1019769/posts


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28 posted on 03/02/2004 8:33:55 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com)
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