More details emerge on reports of terrorist activity before 9-11 attacks... [Story is up]

Drudge Report ^ | 2-23-04

[CalifornianConservative]

Thanks, and as for being a newbie, let's just say I've been around the block.

Said it before but...

It was a cold, apocalyptic wind that blew over our country that winter day of January 20, 1993

... when Clinton took the oath.

[CalifornianConservative]

Who is "JOHN GALT"? Wasn't he also an Ayn Rand character like Howard O Roarke in THE FOUNTAINHEAD? Just guessing without looking it up.

[FairOpinion]

When will Tenet resign?

[Khan Noonian Singh]

<< When will Tenet resign? >>

Don't hold your breath.

[Khan Noonian Singh]

<< Who is "JOHN GALT"? Wasn't he also an Ayn Rand character like Howard O Roarke in THE FOUNTAINHEAD? Just guessing without looking it up. >>

Alan Greenspan was another.

[LayoutGuru2]

Bump

[My Dog Likes Me]

If I was a CIA desk officer and the GERMANS passed this intell to me because they were worried about Marwan, I would've placed this at the top of my "to do list."

I predict that the next NY Times piece on this matter, courtesy of sources within the CIA, will be along the lines of "We monitored his telephone while he was overseas, but once he entered the US, we lost our authority, under the law, to monitor his telephonic communications. It became an FBI problem."

[tubavil]

bush loves Tenet...

[tubavil]

They did bulldoze that right quick. Waco too. And that 'shooter' in suburban CA too (damned gas rounds burned the place down, what a shock!)(I remember the .50 mounted on the cop APC, there's a pic and thread somewhre on FR...).

[Stultis]

'Rat matrix:

The Bush administration was criminally (LAX|OVER ZEALOUS) in connecting the dots with respect to (911|IRAQ)!

[JustPiper]

posted the link on Daily Thread bump!

[Stultis]

bush loves Tenet...

So do I. Tenet, and Coffer Black, are excellent. I'm no agency insider, but from everything I hear Tenet has done wonders (including before 911) in rebuilding and reviving the agency after a long and debilitating string of failed directors (What was it? Five in seven years preceding him!) and in spite of slashed budgets and insane directives from The Rapist and Janet the Hulk.

Tenet may be the best director since Bill Casey. In fact he may be better. No one can take away from Casey's key role in winning the Cold War, since he was apparently the one who devised and cunningly developed the idea of using economic warfare against the Soviet Union, but the fact is that he also damaged the agency. He caused unnecessary hostility on Capital Hill, was an indifferent administrator, and was bad about weeding out the occasional inexcusably stupid idea (e.g. mining the Nicaraguan harbor).

Tenet is aggressive like Casey, but he's also smooth with the Congress critters (though not hesitant to put them in their place when it's necessary to do so) and he's a top notch administrator.

I don't understand the freepers who want Bush to fire him. Tenet has carefully cultivated a leadership style that encourages (smart) "risk taking" and "envelope pushing" by his operatives and analysts. This attitude is an essential part of the war on terror. If Bush fires Tenet it sends a signal to the folks in the trenches that we're back to the bad old days of political scapegoating, and that they should revert to C.Y.A. mode.

[TexKat]

Thanks for the ping LG2. MSNBC is reporting on it this morning.

[My Dog Likes Me]

The "I-Man" is gonna have a field day with this one!

[jrlc]

"How can we BRIDGE this info about KLINTOON's failure to pursue terrorists and still blame it on Bush?"

[jrlc]

"Hey, I have a good idea -- let's write a song -- Imagine there were not Bad Guys."

[chiller]

I'll second your support for Tenet. Connecting the dots at that stage could not have been easy.

[tubavil]

In one sentence, Tenet is a disasterous failure.

Various FR threads detail why.

As an example, here in Seattle I can walk into a half dozen 'businesses' where a dozen ME males openly talk about jihad and laugh at US.

We're 2.5 years past 9/11.

Somebody needs a new job (and yes I'm familiar with the stated roles of various TLAs).

[CalifornianConservative]

You may be right about Tenet, I don't know. It just seems strange to me that no one has "taken the fall" for the Intel failures of 9/11.

If it was all Clintoon's fault, why hasn't that wreath of shame been laid at his feet by either Tenet or Bush or SOMEONE?

It smells like back-room dealmaking when everything appears so rosy after the biggest attack on the U.S. since Pearl Harbor.

But perhaps I answered my own question. FDR, of course did not castigate Navy Intel after Pearl Harbor -- who certainly had some inkling about the Japanese.

I suppose what I want is a more forcefully articulate position by our President, or Ashcroft, or Ridge, or Tenet as to what happened.

As a Freeper, it seems so easy to connect the dots, Clinton was just trying to sweep terrorism under the rug and pretend that a new age of "feel good" internationalism had dawned. And it exploded in W's face.

The angst for us is that we want someone to articulate this argument or this line of reasoning for us. As the months and years go by, it seems that our leaders think we are too stupid or too preoccupied with our own selfish lives to care about our beautiful, amazing country and those that threaten her. So no one makes the truthful argument.

I just wish someone would honestly connect the dots regarding our true state of national insecurity and who is to blame, admit the problems we have had and let the political chips fall where they may.

[american spirit]

I'd still like to know if there has been any evidence uncovered regarding who was responsible for placing off the inordinate number of put options on United and American airlines prior to 9/11. Someone sure knew that each of those stocks were going to negatively impacted by the events of that day. Even more disconcerting are the events surrounding the attack on the WTC in '93.