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this land is my land
the washington times
| february 18, 2004
| joseph perkins
Posted on 02/22/2004 7:47:07 PM PST by teeman8r
The recent court decision didn't make the front fapes of the nation's newspapers. It didn't rate mention on the evening newscasts. But it could, ultimately, have the same impact on property rights in the United States that, say, Brown vs. Board of Education had on school desegregation.
The precedent-setting case involved 275 San Joaquin Valley, CA farmers whose water was taken from them by the US Fish and Wildlife Service a decade ago to accomodate two fish on the federal endangered species list- the chinook salmon and the delta smelt....
...But they(supreme court justices) likely would agree with Judge Wiese that private property owners are entitled to compensation when government regulations restricts the reasonable use of their property.
TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: compensation; environment; environmentalism; propertyrights; water
sorry i couldn't get a link, this is good news and needs a link... i plan to use it in maryland to thwart the department of the environment's arrogance.
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posted on
02/22/2004 7:47:07 PM PST
by
teeman8r
To: teeman8r
fapes=pages...
how did that happen...
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posted on
02/22/2004 7:53:26 PM PST
by
teeman8r
To: teeman8r
Let me do the link..
wait, is this on their website?? I can't find it..
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posted on
02/22/2004 7:53:59 PM PST
by
GeronL
(http://www.ArmorforCongress.com......................Send a Freeper to Congress!)
To: teeman8r
"this land is my land"
- - -
Hey - I thought it was MY land !
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posted on
02/22/2004 8:04:02 PM PST
by
DefCon
To: farmfriend
ping
To: DefCon
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posted on
02/22/2004 8:08:34 PM PST
by
DefCon
To: teeman8r
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posted on
02/22/2004 8:12:04 PM PST
by
Consort
To: teeman8r; abbi_normal_2; Ace2U; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; alphadog; amom; AndreaZingg; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
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posted on
02/22/2004 11:25:10 PM PST
by
farmfriend
( Isaiah 55:10,11)
To: teeman8r
This land is my land
It is'nt your land
I got a shotgun
and you don't got one
If you don't get off
I'll blast your head off
This land is private property...
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posted on
02/22/2004 11:26:58 PM PST
by
Dinsdale
To: farmfriend
BTTT!!!!!!
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posted on
02/23/2004 3:10:43 AM PST
by
E.G.C.
To: teeman8r
Mr. Perkins continues:
In 1998 the Tulare Lake Basin Water Storage District and Kern County Water agency sued the federal gov't on behalf of the aggrieved farmers, to whom they deliver so many acre-feet of water.
The water districts maintained that the gov'ts order that they curtail water deliveries to their farming customers amounted to a regulatory "taking" of th e farmers' rightful property.
Three years ago, Judge John Paul Wiese of the US Court of Federal Claims ruled that the gov't owed the 275 farmers for their water losses. This past New Year's Eve, he set the amount of damages at $14 million plus interest( a momentous judgement that received little notice until a few weeks ago)
Alf W Brandt, the Interior Dept lawyer who argued the gov'ts case, says that, in the wake of Judge Wiese's decision, "There may be implications for how the Endangered Species Act is implemented."
Indeed, no longer can gove't regulators take private property- be it water or, presumably, land- to protect this snail darter or that spotted owl with no consideration whatsoever for the economic loss that may be suffered by private property owners.
If the government feels that a species is so endangered that it needs to take a farmer's water, that it needs to deprive a landowner of full economic use of his or her land, then the gov't ought to pay the farmer, the landowner for the loss.
After all, the Fifth Amendment state that private property shall not be "taken for the public use, without just compensation."
Environmental activists insist that the 5th's "takings" clause applies only to property that has been physically taken from a private property owner.
However, in recent decades, the US supreme court has ruled on several occasions that the takings clause also applies when gov't regulation leaves property in private hands while restricting (or forbidding) use of the property.
In 1987, the high court went so far as to liken a state use of regulation to "extortion" in Nollan vs. California Coastal Commission.
Five years later, the justices issued a landmark ruling in Lucas vs South Carolina Coastal Council, declaring that "when the owner of a real property has been called upon to sacrifice all economically beneficial uses in the name of the common good," he or she must be paid for the regulatory taking.
In a 1994 case, Dola vs City of Tigard, the high court stated that "we see no reason why the takings clause of the 5th Amendment, as much a part of the BOR as the 1st or the 4th, should be relegated to the status of poor relation."
In Palazzolo vs. Rhode Island, a 2001 case, the justices held that, even though a property owner acquired title to land after certain restricitve environmental regulations took effect, that did not negate his takings claim.
Otherwise, the majority declared, "A state would be allowed, in effect, to put an expiration date on the takings clause."
It remains to be seen whether the Justice Dept will appeal Judge Wiese's recent decision.
If it does, the supreme court might get its ripest opportunity yet to resolve the long-running conflict between environmental regulation and private property rights.
The justices almost certainly would affirm the gove'ts authority to regulate the use of private property- for the protection of endangered species or some other common good.
But they likely would agree with Judge Wiese that private property owners are entitled to compensation when government regulation restricts the reasonable use of their property.
this has been read to the audience by teeman via electronic bulletin board.
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posted on
02/23/2004 5:48:51 AM PST
by
teeman8r
To: Dinsdale
I love it!!!
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posted on
02/23/2004 7:19:38 AM PST
by
Carry_Okie
(There are people in power who are truly stupid.)
To: Carry_Okie
Ah HA!
To: sasquatch
What...
You thought I'd written it?
I coulda, but I didn't.
I've written a good many in the same vein.
Sure liked it.
M
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posted on
02/24/2004 5:31:37 PM PST
by
Carry_Okie
(The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
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