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What "Gay" Marriage Will Mean for our Children
Mission America ^ | 2/22/04 | Linda P. Harvey

Posted on 02/22/2004 4:50:09 PM PST by GrandMoM

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To: H2dude
Got any kids, dude?
81 posted on 02/22/2004 9:39:46 PM PST by Atchafalaya
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To: Jeff Gordon
Never before in the history of mankind have some many been so worried about so few. Homosexuals are less than 2% of the population.

Well, those few are certainly making an uproar in California.

Not to mention their ubiquity in the schools through GLSEN and the NEA. Their recent forays at the UN to get sexual orientation declared an international human right. And that little thing about wanting to remake thousands of years of tradition in their own image.

Maybe you should say never has so few made it so impossible for the other 98% to ignore them.

82 posted on 02/22/2004 10:27:19 PM PST by tuesday afternoon
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To: little jeremiah
pssst! over here...
83 posted on 02/23/2004 12:47:37 AM PST by King Prout (I am coming to think that the tree of liberty is presently dying of thirst.)
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To: Peach
hrmn... reviewing mental notes of argument on this topic I have been having on another, far more "liberal" site... hrmn...
methinks Bruce is correct.
84 posted on 02/23/2004 12:53:41 AM PST by King Prout (I am coming to think that the tree of liberty is presently dying of thirst.)
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To: GrandMoM
I think that radical gays who push this agenda are about 30 or 50 years ahead of their time, which is not in the best interests of gays in the Heartland who don't want to marry or adopt kids and in reality just want to be left alone.





85 posted on 02/23/2004 1:46:08 AM PST by My Dog Likes Me
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To: H2dude
A quick check on your previous postings indicates that you have a fascination for illegal street drugs.

Now you draw the line with your posting about bestiality and pediaphilia. I am glad you it is not "OK" in your humbled opinion.

What is your stance on necrophilia? Yea or nay?
86 posted on 02/23/2004 2:21:50 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave
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To: GrandMoM
Bump to stop homosexuals from recruiting and imprinting children.
87 posted on 02/23/2004 2:45:46 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: GrandMoM
With all due respect (which is more than you've shown me), don't patronize me. Don't condescend to me like I'm your grandchild.

I'm not defending evil, I'm pointing out that this is nothing but one person's wild speculation. You're embracing it as if it's the word of God itself. I just think it makes you look a little bit credulous.

I'm sorry if you take it as a personal affront anytime someone challenges you and your eager willingness to believe anything that affirms what you already believe, but to put any kind of credibility to this article just makes me think you're a prime target for some huckster televangelist.

88 posted on 02/23/2004 4:26:42 AM PST by tdadams
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To: gogipper
In the social sciences you rarely can scientifically establish cause and effect, correlation is a fairly common approach.

True, but correlation is often fallacious and mistaken for causation.

There is a correlation between cigar smoking and higher incomes. But just because I start smoking cigars doesn't mean my income will go up. Correlation is not causation and should not be mistaken for such.

89 posted on 02/23/2004 4:32:11 AM PST by tdadams
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To: rocknotsand
I can accept and tolerate those people who get "married" by The State or the courts or cruise ship captains or Prison Wardens or video hook ups or mail order or Wal-Mart coupons... but I don't respect them as much as bridegrooms and brides who believe in God and get married as He intends, as He Wills according to His Word.

Be careful that your very right to say you don't respect certain kinds of liaisons does not go out the window.

90 posted on 02/23/2004 5:32:13 AM PST by drlevy88
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To: GrandMoM
Bump

Also see: The American Child After Same-Sex Marriage


What We Can Do To Help Defeat the "Gay" Agenda


Homosexual Agenda: Categorical Index of Links (Version 1.1)



Choice4Truth

91 posted on 02/23/2004 5:55:52 AM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: GrandMoM

> Help stop PFLAG and GLSEN



How You Can Help Stop PFLAG & GLSEN


92 posted on 02/23/2004 6:01:09 AM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: Peach; H2dude; GrandMoM

Tammy Bruce's book The Death of Right and Wrong is a useful book to read regarding gay marriage, the gay agenda in our public schools and the leftists who promote them...


Excellent book. Here are a few Tammy Bruce articles posted on Free Republic:

SUNDAY Q & A: A lesbian takes on the 'thought police'

Tammy Bruce: No Sympathy for the Devil

Tammy Bruce: Protect New York's Children from the Gay Elite

"In my book The Death of Right and Wrong I warn about the sexualization and targeting of children by the radical gay fringe. The announcement that a school in New York will open in September and be the first publicly run “gay high school” is a testament to that vile and loathsome agenda.

Do not be cowed with arguments that if you’re against this you’re a “homophobe.” In fact, the unforgivable crime is if we remain silent allowing children to be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness, as we sit and watch gay malignant narcissists make a wild grab for children. Well, it won’t be done in my name, and I contend that every decent hetero- and homosexual person out there should be equally outraged by this hideous action.

Not all of this, however, is inexplicable. As I outline in detail in DRW, there is a sick movement among the homosexual academics and the radical gay fringe to change the age of sexual consent in this nation to 12-years-old. As sexually transmitted diseases for both hetero- and homosexuals increases and HIV/AIDS runs rampant, the goal by some to have access to children (untouched virgins, free of disease) has increased.

Consider this: Accepting the “gay high school” demands you accept the notion that there are “gay and transgender kids,” which on its face is simply ridiculous. The argument is that children as young as 13 and 14-years-old somehow know, in their immature little kid minds, what their sexuality is, including if they’re a “transgendered youth,” which is a child who believes he or she should be the opposite sex. Frankly, if there is a 14 ­year-old boy who wants to have his penis removed to become a “girl,” that kid needs to be in a psychiatrist’s office, not a high school created just for him.

Think about it: we’re talking about children who are not psychologically mature enough to decide what to have for dinner, let along comprehend the intricacies of sexuality and all its physical and psychological repercussions. But the Gay Elite want us to believe that somehow these children know they prefer to have anal sex or need their breasts removed to find their “true” selves. Yeah, and I’m Anna Nicole Smith.

I cannot even begin to express my rage at a radical gay fringe and leftists who now are openly and willingly sacrificing children in a vain and self-obsessed drive to quench their own appetites for the young. That’s all this amounts to—adults indulging themselves, and others made too mute by political correctness to step up and say "No."

Even supporters of the gay school concept admit that the so-called gay kids they’re dealing with suffer from sexual acting-out, suicidal tendencies, drug abuse, and homelessness. The fact is, all of these symptoms are indications of sexual molestation, not homosexuality. So, instead of helping these kids deal with a serious trauma, they’ll be called “gay” and sent to a school to become a chef.

Welcome to the Left’s progressive world.

Really, do you honestly think if a child is actually sexually confused because his priest or Uncle Joe molested him, that anyone at the “gay school” is going to tell him that he just might need psychological help dealing with the trauma, and may be heterosexual and not gay at all?

Of course not. We’ll throw that kid on the garbage heap so gay malignant narcissists can feel more “normal” by making kids be just like them. While the gay establishment refuses to address the impact our histories have on our sexual identity, I refuse to let that cowardice take children as its next victims...


93 posted on 02/23/2004 6:08:49 AM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: helives; H2dude; GrandMoM
"only sex with children and animals is not OK, IMHO"

says who???, 30 yrs ago someone would have written that sex with children, animals or members of the same sex is not ok...


An excerpt from: American Psychiatric Association Symposium Debates Whether Pedophilia, Gender-Identity Disorder, Sexual Sadism Should Remain Mental Illnesses

On Monday, May 19th, 2003 in San Francisco, at a symposium hosted by the American Psychiatric Association, several long-recognized categories of mental illness were discussed for possible removal from the upcoming edition of the psychiatric manual of mental disorders.

Among the mental illnesses being debated in the symposium at the APA's annual convention were all the paraphilias--which include pedophilia, exhibitionism, fetishism, transvestism, voyeurism, and sadomasochism...

Earlier, in the December 2002 issue of a prestigious journal, the Archives of Sexual Behavior, Moser--along with several other prominent mental-health experts--argued in favor of de-pathologizing pedophilia. Some of the commentators writing in that issue said that there is little or no proof that sex with adults is harmful to minors. Another mental-health expert argued that society should not discriminate against adults who are attracted to children--noting that many beloved authors and public figures throughout history have been high-functioning individuals who could actually be classified as pedophiles.

"Any sexual interest," Moser concluded in his Archives commentary, "can be healthy and life-enhancing..."

"People with Paraphilic Sexual Interests Suffer Like Homosexuals Did Before the 1973 Decision..."


If they can succeed in removing pedophilia from the DSM, they can claim their perversion is as "normal" as homosexuality. Then they won't hesitate to ask the question. Or insist that the age of consent be lowered.

( Documentation: The APA's Removal of Homosexuality from the DSM )

94 posted on 02/23/2004 6:24:56 AM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: EdReform
Wow! I hope you can cut and paste that Tammy Bruce article that you just posted and put it in a word document.

Then, whenever you see an article on gay marriage, etc., you can re-post it on those threads as well.

A MUST read for everyone. People have NO idea what the radical gay agenda is. Thank you for posting that.
95 posted on 02/23/2004 6:42:29 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: GrandMoM
Some folks here will try to denigrate the facts and claim you're biased, but when you post direct references from homosexual activists and scientists supporting your position, they suddenly realize their argument doesn't work and say, well that's just one persons opinion. Sure, one homosexual here, one homosexual scientist there, another homosexual activist here...

It appears some folks here are too biased to see the truth when it's right in front of them. Indeed, as you said, praying their eyes will be opened to the truth is the best response in these cases.

96 posted on 02/23/2004 7:07:11 AM PST by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: ProfoundMan
Exactly! Let them change the Constitution to allow gay marriage, not the other way around!
97 posted on 02/23/2004 7:11:36 AM PST by petercooper (America - where your problems aren't your fault, they're someone else's.)
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To: Quix
For most, it's a lifestyle choice.
98 posted on 02/23/2004 7:12:56 AM PST by petercooper (America - where your problems aren't your fault, they're someone else's.)
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To: Peach
Your welcome! I do indeed have that excerpt saved to disk and have posted it several times, most recently here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1073594/posts?page=26#26

We need more people like Tammy Bruce to come forward and help put a stop to the indoctrination of kids. However, the silence of the homosexual community at large speaks volumes.

99 posted on 02/23/2004 7:36:52 AM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: petercooper; Quix
For most, it's a lifestyle choice.

You may find this informative:

How Might Homosexuality Develop? Putting the Pieces Together
Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle.

Dr. Spitzer used to believe homosexuals couldn't leave the lifestyle, but after his own study he now believes they can. That must have been one very revealing study for Spitzer to change his mind on such a hot controversial issue. Source

100 posted on 02/23/2004 7:37:46 AM PST by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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