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Same-sex marriage threatens real marriage
Manchester Union Leader ^ | February 22, 2004 | Bernadette Malone

Posted on 02/22/2004 6:54:58 AM PST by billorites

ONE QUESTION for the Rev. Gene Robinson, the nation’s first openly gay Episcopal priest (now bishop) who cautions those of us opposed to same-sex marriage: “Don’t waste your time and energy defending marriage from something that doesn’t threaten it.” Doesn’t polygamy threaten marriage?

Would the Rev. Robinson rise to defend polygamy, and perform wedding ceremonies for a man and two women, or a woman and two men (polyandry)? Because if same-sex marriage doesn’t threaten real marriage, why should polygamy? There’s not a dime’s worth of difference between the two institutions when you study them.

This comparison is not intended to be degrading or insulting; it’s not likening same-sex marriage to bestiality or incest or any other perversions that harm children and animals. Both same-sex marriage and polygamy are voluntary arrangements by consenting adults; why should we care what people do behind closed doors?

And if marriage need not be limited to one man and one woman — as Robinson is saying — why need it be limited to couples only? What’s so sacred about the number 2?

It seems a bit arbitrary to allow one man to marry another man, but not to marry two women. Why should the government restrict his choice, provided his partners are willing? Would the Rev. Robinson concede that letting groups of three, four or more marry would water down the meaning of marriage, which elevates and sanctifies the precise biological recipe for creating children?

Many homosexuals don’t take the polygamy analogy seriously, or they become easily offended when the comparison is made. But there are many sound reasons to consider legalizing polygamy, advocates of same-sex marriage must admit.

Just like people feel that they are born homosexual, which justifies their right to marry same-sex lovers, people also are born with the proclivity to have multiple sex partners. For many people, monogamy does not feel like their natural, biological state.

Animals, for the most part, are not monogamous. So should people who are born with a strong urge to mate with more than one woman be denied their constitutional right to follow their urge? Why should a man be thwarted by the government if he can find two (or more) women to go along with him?

Proponents of same-sex marriage claim it will have a stabilizing effect on homosexual relationships. Don’t we want to encourage marriage and lifelong commitment, they ask?

Similarly, marrying more than one woman might be a stabilizing, civilizing influence on natural-born philanderers. They may be less inclined to pursue mistresses and patronize prostitutes if they have legally sanctioned variety at home. They may become less inclined to take advantage of no-fault divorce laws to abandon their wives for other women (opting instead to bring them into the household).

And perhaps polygamy will even cut down on pornography, once threesomes are no longer relegated to the world of naughty fantasy, but are a staple of routine married life.

Polygamy, like homosexuality, has long and storied roots in antiquity. In the Bible, Abraham kept the concubine Hagar alongside his wife Sarah, and had sons with both. Hagar’s descendants are modern day Muslims, who are permitted by the Koran to have up to four wives, provided they are all treated equally.

Why are Muslims denied this Allah-given right by state laws? Why were the Mormons — a perfectly lovely group of Christians — slaughtered and persecuted for practicing the ancient institution of polygamy? Mormon men took multiple wives to protect them spiritually; but even modern-day economics shows that married women fare better than unmarried women. Why not allow men to “look out” for more than one woman at a time?

Considering same-sex marriage is like trying to walk on top of a chain-link fence: you’ll fall off within minutes, and your only decision is which side of the fence to fall on: The side that favors keeping marriage between one man and one woman, the formula for baby-making and dual-gender parenting, or the side that favors letting any combination of men and women call themselves a marriage?

But one can’t walk along the top of the fence indefinitely. There’s a 50 percent chance of falling onto the side that favors any collection of people as a marriage, and that’s why the Rev. Gene Robinson is wrong. In opposing gay marriage, we are defending marriage from something that does indeed threaten it.

Bernadette Malone is the former editorial page editor of The Union Leader and New Hampshire Sunday News.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I got the same address! WOWOWOWOWOWOWOW

Ernest, we are so spe-sh-all.
281 posted on 02/22/2004 7:26:31 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Pray for America and Israel)
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To: Amelia
You are thinking too concretely. Its not just 'real marriages', most present-day marriages won't be affected. It is the future that is impacted. People approaching their marrying years will not see marriage as at all important. There will be a further explosion of unmarried mothers. Men won't even consider marriage because they are wired for multiple partners and there will be no societal respect or approval to limit themselves.

Have you ever read of the dramatic increase in spousal and child abuse in non-marital households? Marriage commitment avoids this. I love my kids and I think all kids deserve a stable marriage-based household.



I am also including a quote from American Standard about what HAS REALLY HAPPENED IN SCANDINAVIA because they have already gone down this road!

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AMERICANS take it for granted that, despite its recent troubles, marriage will always exist. This is a mistake. Marriage is disappearing in Scandinavia, and the forces undermining it there are active throughout the West. Perhaps the most disturbing sign for the future is the collapse of the Scandinavian tendency to marry after the second child. At the start of the nineties, 60 percent of unmarried Norwegian parents who lived together had only one child. By 2001, 56 percent of unmarried, cohabiting parents in Norway had two or more children. This suggests that someday, Scandinavian parents might simply stop getting married altogether, no matter how many children they have.

282 posted on 02/22/2004 7:33:24 PM PST by gogipper (Judgement at Nuerenburg ...... Judgement at Baghdad)
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To: chiller
a new tactic

Strangely amusing. Perhaps it is a marketing ploy.

283 posted on 02/22/2004 7:38:22 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: Brad's Gramma
It's such a good feeling!
284 posted on 02/22/2004 7:39:19 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Warm and fuzzy all over.

Wait. Fuz-ee.

:-)
285 posted on 02/22/2004 7:40:12 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Pray for America and Israel)
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To: Amelia
Where I teach, very few of the children live with both parents, and some don't even have fathers listed on their birth certificates.


And is this a good thing??? If you are a teacher and you see this devastation, don't you see how we should roll it back? Encourage men to be responsible and marry women who they have children with, encourage women to stay with their husbands. Don't just say because it has been damaged thus far by society, lets pull the plug and end it.
286 posted on 02/22/2004 7:44:29 PM PST by gogipper (Judgement at Nuerenburg ...... Judgement at Baghdad)
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To: gogipper
And is this a good thing???...Don't just say because it has been damaged thus far by society, lets pull the plug and end it.

You appear to have misread what I wrote.

287 posted on 02/22/2004 7:50:03 PM PST by Amelia (I have trouble taking some people seriously.)
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To: MEG33
Liza Minelli saying Osama was captured

Are we getting direct email from DEBKA now? The is highly unlogical, all these items of marginal interest going out like spam. Perhaps they are zeroing in on our coordinates.

288 posted on 02/22/2004 7:52:22 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: onyx; Admin Moderator
Our cyber heroes have nabbed the crazy woman spammer. The mods rock!
289 posted on 02/22/2004 7:56:08 PM PST by secret garden (Go Predators! Go Spurs!)
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To: secret garden

YES! This has been quite a day for trolls.
290 posted on 02/22/2004 7:57:16 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: Amelia
and that is why gay marriage shouldn't be recognized by the state - it does nothing for the state, whereas heterosexual marriage does.

Exactly. Not one single taxpayer/citizen/"human resource" has ever come out of the physical coupling of two persons of the same gender. Not one. Whereas ALL the taxpayers/citizens/"human resources" that the state has have come out of the union of a male sperm cell and a female egg cell. And the best way to get these cells together is still the normal, heterosexual sex act. (Unless one wants to make babies in laboratories, as in an Orwellian nightmare world. Even in the Orwellian nightmare world, though, they still need one MAN, to get the sperm, and one WOMAN, to get the egg.)

Homosexuals can't get along without us. Without heterosexual sex acts, there wouldn't be any children for them to adopt when they get to middle age and suddenly decide that they want to play "family". Where, I wonder, is their gratitude to us? For that matter, where is their gratitude to their own parents, who were "backward" enough to engage in normal, procreative sex?

291 posted on 02/22/2004 7:58:02 PM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: billorites
Marrige is for kids and their birth situations.

If gay people need to feel themselves part of the mainstream -- evidence suggests the opposite -- they could start by embracing diversity in their own lives, marrying some one of a different sex.
292 posted on 02/22/2004 8:43:28 PM PST by Tax Government
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To: Grut
Souds like you didn't understand the article:same sex marriage threatens the Institution of Marriage,because it changes the definition of marriage.If same sex couples can marry,why not legalize incest? There are no logical or scientific reasons to prohibit it.
294 posted on 02/22/2004 8:46:13 PM PST by stimulate
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To: cariabo; onyx; Peach; Brad's Gramma; Admin Moderator
NO Thanks!

Welcome our new guest!

Troll ALERT!
296 posted on 02/22/2004 8:48:49 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: caraibo
Go away, fag. These sick, repulsive "marriages," WILL BE declared invalid, null and void. Live with it.
297 posted on 02/22/2004 8:53:57 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
This troll is nuked.
298 posted on 02/22/2004 8:55:46 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator; onyx; Brad's Gramma; LibWhacker
Your service is very much appreciated!
299 posted on 02/22/2004 8:57:38 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

More FR mail from the nuked troll.

Geeeeez.
300 posted on 02/22/2004 8:58:13 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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