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To: onyx
What is the next move to get Lockyer's attention? Besides a two by four I mean?

Aside from Arnold calling out the militia (lol), neither of them can do much other than make statements and/or go to court. And, of course, they're already going to court.

One of the problems here is that this issue is arising in an interesting way. Most of the opponents of gay marriage have been arguing that the issue of gay marriage should not be decided by unelected courts and that the issue should be decided by the political branches of government. Well, in this case, an elected mayor has taken the initiative in favor of gay marriage and so, in this case, it is the opponents of gay marriage who are now asking the courts to decide the issue.

Courts take time. ;-)

376 posted on 02/22/2004 11:40:47 AM PST by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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To: Scenic Sounds
Can the mayor be recalled or arrested?

I don't guess the people of San Francisco are interested in recalling him, though, are they?
377 posted on 02/22/2004 11:44:36 AM PST by Amelia (I have trouble taking some people seriously.)
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To: Scenic Sounds
the issue should be decided by the political branches of government.

Yes, that's true, but normal US political policy does not include flouting of the law by public officials.

Political would mean that the people had asked the legislature to do something, and it expressed their intention in the form of a law. Which it did: the state constitutional amendment defining marriage as between a man and a woman.

380 posted on 02/22/2004 12:07:51 PM PST by livius
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To: Scenic Sounds
...the issue of gay marriage should not be decided by unelected courts and that the issue should be decided by the political branches of government.

The issue was already decided, by the appropriate 'branch of government,' the PEOPLE. Four years ago the people of California voted in favor of Proposition 22 by 61%, a ballot initiative that said: "Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California."

The Constitution of the state of California places the burden of law enforcement upon the Governor in Article 5, Section 1: "The supreme executive power of this State is vested in the Governor. The Governor shall see that the law is faithfully executed."

The courts have no role in this controversy except hearing testimony to the charges against the SF mayor and the AG that they have failed to do their duty in upholding the law.

Both Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger and President George W. Bush understand that this is an issue of the rule of law.

"I have watched carefully what's happening in San Francisco, where licenses were being issued, even though the law states otherwise," President Bush has said.

"Our civilized society and legal system is based upon a respect for and adherence to the rule of law. The City and County of San Francisco's unfortunate choice to disregard state law and grant marriage certificates to gay couples directly undermines this fundamental guarantee," Governor Schwarzenegger has written.

The AG has followed the lead of the SF mayor in openly defying the will of the people, the law of the land, and the orders of the state's chief law enforcement officer.

It's time to clean house.

381 posted on 02/22/2004 12:12:22 PM PST by .30Carbine
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