Reading, Writing, and ... Homosexuality?

TownHall ^ | Feb. 21, 2004 | Doug Giles

[Unam Sanctam]

I think it is an infringement on religious freedom for public schools to indoctrinate children on liberal religious and moral views on sexual activity, including homosexual activity. People have a right to hold traditional views on sexual morality.

[tioga]

-here is another really angry parent from a public school. He has a national column to spout off in!

[tioga]

-you should see this as well.

[stopem]

"There is much we can do, and we CAN succeed in stopping gay recruitment -"

What can we do? When the law allows them to break the law, what can we do?
I would gladly do it if I knew what it was.
They are now a strong and militant group who are threatening and verbally abusing anyone who gets in their way.


I have joined every single group that has been posted on this forum and signed the petitions including the one to the president. What more can we do?

[PresbyRev]

The purpose of the modern government school is not education, but rather is indoctrination and socialization.

Children are taught to be pliant, cowed and credulous - of anyone (no matter how ignorant or incompetent) in authority, of bullies and their peers.

Students in government schools are there in order to learn a new ethic and unlearn anything taught at home or in church or synagogue. That goes back to the foundations of 'public education' with Horace Mann and J. Dewey.

There is no neutrality in this life and government schools have never been and never will be 'neutral.' In teaching you must of necessity teach out of certain epistemological presuppositions and absolute or ultimate commitments - the teacher will communicate a world & life view no matter how irrational or inane.

Best thing to do if you don't like the tripe in government schools - rather than send your children there to be brainwashed - educate them at a private school, a homeschool co-op or homeschool yourself. Otherwise, you are deliberately turning over your child to be molded and taught by unaccountable educrats.

[Bob Mc]

One word Doug: Homeschool.

[upchuck]

Queers and Fagots ping alert.

[trek]

The point of Government Schools has always been "indoctrination and socialization." The indoctrination just used to be more benign.

It is now important that a majority of the citizenry realize that the end of universal education does not require the means government schools.

Everyone agrees on the end. We need to focus the debate on the means and not let the demagogues control the debate.

[Seruzawa]

I hate to generalize about teachers but why do they knuckle under to these kicked-in-the-head descontructionist ideas? Who thinks up these stupid ideas in the first place? Does no one have the sense to refuse to implement this garbage? Does anyone remember the disastrous "new math"? These obviously destructive curricula are signed on by administrators and implemeted in the schools without the slightest evidence that these things are anything but destructive.

Teachers as a class must be dumb as rocks. Or gutless wonders who will pass on any filth to out children just to keep their crummy jobs.

I guess I'm being too harsh. How many parents have the guts to say no to the Ritalin pushers, give up a few personal luxuries and put their kids in private school? A few thousand parents demanding the dismissal of these educrats would work wonders I bet.

[Texan5]

Oh, my God-this garbage has got to stop.

[thesummerwind]

We’re the majority and the last time I checked, the majority still rules in the USA.

Boy, don't say that.....you'll invite some sarcastic, angry Democrats to bring up the 2000 election again.

Btw, majority is certainly not always the best way to go.

[Lady Eileen]

This something I posted yesterday on another thread:

Two liberals I know from New York came to visit me recently...they asked me if I thought "gay marriage" would be accepted in America...I said most Americans do not agree with gay marriage(mirage)....The liberals said the reason most of middle America don't agree with it is because they are just plain stupid,ignorant and narrow-minded...They said that American children have been brainwashed by their parents.... I said it is not that they are stupid...they have a moral conviction that it is wrong...they said that most Americans are dumb and need to be reeducated...I said how to you propose to do this. They said it is already being done in the public schools.

[Licensed-To-Carry]

I have two beautiful little granddaughters ages 6 and 3. I have already told my son and daughter-in-law that I will make sure (financially) these kids continue to be enrolled in Christian school, just as they are now.

The public school system will be the major cause for the destruction of this country if it is not changed.

[Clint Williams]

What more can we do?

Water the roots of the tree of liberty.

[bolobaby]

We just took our 6 year old niece to Disney World. While in Epcot, I made sure to take her into the American pavilion so she could watch the "American Experience" show.

Throughout the show, I kept leaning over and explaining who everyone was...

"That's George Washington, the father of our country. He led our troops in the Revolutionary War."

"That's Thomas Jefferson, the man who is credited with largely writing our Constitution."

"That's Abraham Lincoln, leader of our country during the Civil War."

You get the idea.

Wouldn't you know... of ALL the people that she saw in the show, there was only ONE for whom she pointed at the screen and exclaimed, "I know who that is!"

Martin Luther King.

I was a little taken aback since this was late into the show and she hadn't known a single historical figure up to this point. Furthermore, MLK only flashed across the screen briefly, during a montage, yet she still picked him out readily.

So I asked her what MLK was known for.

(rough paraphrase, by memory) "He had a dream and he wanted everyone to be free including the 'afra-mericans' and then he got shot 'cause some bad person killed him."

OK... six years old. She can't even get the days of the week correct yet (don't blame me, she's my niece! (though we worked on that!)) but she can rattle off a mini-bio for MLK. She didn't even know any of the names of the other historical figures. Great.

Public education priorities. Gotta love 'em.

(I think MY kids will be home-schooled... when I have 'em, heh.)

[trek]

Your friend would appear to be correct. The radical gay left is definitely in control of public school curricula and Bush is doing nothing about it except increasing Federal support for the poison.

Patsy Schroeder (remember her?) is the top dog in the organization responsible for the textbooks used in schools around the country. How does that make you feel about the kind of education our kids are getting in the government schools.

[TheDon]

Separation of School and State BUMP!

[the right side jedi]

Don't forget the private schools. They're just as bad when it comes to educating kids about homosexuality. I'm surprised that the propaganda I got didn't persuade me but rather strengthened my conservatism. I guess being a conservative was my teenage rebellion. But not all kids react this way. On my college campus, I'm shocked that even conservatives (and Christians too!) from red states react to the whole gay marriage debate with a shrug and a "I don't see what could be wrong with it. We shouldn't be mean." Schools and popular culture has already screwed over my generation on this issue....

[Unam Sanctam]

But presumably one has a choice in whether or where to send kids to private schools. Public schools should be neutral on such a controversial topic.