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***Kerry for Senate 1984 Document: Kerry on Defense***
Anonymous source | 2/21/04 | Diotima

Posted on 02/21/2004 10:20:59 AM PST by diotima

Edited on 02/22/2004 9:25:05 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: A Citizen Reporter; ABG(anybody but Gore); Angelwood; arazitjh; b4its2late; backhoe; bamafour; ...
Ping per Dog's request
281 posted on 02/22/2004 3:02:22 PM PST by Neets (Complainers change their complaints, but they never reduce the amount of time spent in complaining.~)
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To: Neets; Dog
Why are you trying to get me upset on a Sunday afternoon?

282 posted on 02/22/2004 3:09:43 PM PST by The Raven
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To: The Raven; Dog
Hey!! Don't blame ME!!
283 posted on 02/22/2004 3:10:37 PM PST by Neets (Complainers change their complaints, but they never reduce the amount of time spent in complaining.~)
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To: The Raven
Why you yelling at Neets?
284 posted on 02/22/2004 3:12:24 PM PST by Dog (Bin Laden your account to America is past due......time to pay up.)
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To: All
After the flap over the altered Kerry picture, I'm wary of this until it has been authenticated by another source.
285 posted on 02/22/2004 3:15:25 PM PST by COEXERJ145
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To: COEXERJ145
I can't reveal my source. I would however be shocked if the source was fooled. Shocked.
286 posted on 02/22/2004 3:18:00 PM PST by diotima
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To: Dog; Neets
Here I was, trying to figure out second base for the Yankees and there's Kerry again --- Yarghhhhggg !!!

[You know I'm just kidding, of course.....I love your pings]
287 posted on 02/22/2004 3:20:22 PM PST by The Raven
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To: COEXERJ145
It is easy to check.....see what Kerry voted on each of these weapons systems..
288 posted on 02/22/2004 3:20:29 PM PST by Dog (Bin Laden your account to America is past due......time to pay up.)
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To: COEXERJ145; diotima; generalissimoduane
A little bit of googling and I have confirmed Kerry did indeed vote against all these weapons systems......and MORE!

Kerry

Scroll down to the middle of the page they even list the numbers of the Senate and House Bills in footnotes.

289 posted on 02/22/2004 3:27:44 PM PST by Dog (Bin Laden your account to America is past due......time to pay up.)
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To: BulletBobCo
Did some research, and it looks like the MOPP chemical suits and upgraded M17 chemical masks were being enhanced and upgraded.

So your guess makes the most sense. Can you imagine our forces in 1991 facing Saddam in Kuwait without improved chemical protection? Let alone 2003.

290 posted on 02/22/2004 3:30:18 PM PST by American_Centurion (Daisy-cutters trump a wiretap anytime - Nicole Gelinas)
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To: Dog
Running For Senate In 1984, Kerry Promised Massive Defense Cuts."Kerry in 1984 said he would have voted to cancel ... the B-1 bomber, B-2 stealth bomber, AH-64 Apache helicopter, Patriot missile, the F-15, F-14A and F-14D jets, the AV-8B Harrier jet, the Aegis air-defense cruiser, and the Trident missile system. He also advocated reductions in many other systems, such as the M1 Abrams tank, the Bradley Fighting Vehicle, the Tomahawk cruise missile, and the F-16 jet." (Brian C. Mooney, "Taking One Prize, Then A Bigger One," The Boston Globe, 6/19/03)
291 posted on 02/22/2004 3:31:04 PM PST by diotima
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To: diotima
There is your confirmation for all the naysayers Dio....

You got a scoop!

292 posted on 02/22/2004 3:32:48 PM PST by Dog (Bin Laden your account to America is past due......time to pay up.)
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To: Neets
WOW!!!!
Thanks for the PING, Neets!
Ms.B
293 posted on 02/22/2004 3:33:32 PM PST by MS.BEHAVIN (Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds. Re-elect G.W.Bush)
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To: MS.BEHAVIN
Hey ya Ms.B!!
294 posted on 02/22/2004 3:34:33 PM PST by Neets (Complainers change their complaints, but they never reduce the amount of time spent in complaining.~)
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To: VadeRetro
"But everyone knows we should have cancelled the F-15 program in 1984. They've been totally worthless. "

Yes, Particularly the F-15 because so many have been shot down. Every day another F-15 being shot down. /sarcasm.
295 posted on 02/22/2004 3:35:11 PM PST by edwin hubble
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To: doug from upland
See the link in 289...
296 posted on 02/22/2004 3:37:33 PM PST by Dog (Bin Laden your account to America is past due......time to pay up.)
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To: diotima; Neets
Here is my favorite......Kerry voted against a military pay raise...imagine that.

In 1993, Voted Against Increased Defense Spending For Military Pay Raise.Kerry voted to kill an increase in military pay over five years. (S. Con. Res. 18, CQ Vote #73: Motion Agreed To 55-42: R 2-39; D 53-3, 3/24/93, Kerry Voted Yea)

297 posted on 02/22/2004 3:41:13 PM PST by Dog (Bin Laden your account to America is past due......time to pay up.)
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To: American_Centurion
Thanks for looking that up.
298 posted on 02/22/2004 3:43:44 PM PST by BulletBobCo
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To: edwin hubble
"But we would have saved 2.3 billion 1984 dollars by canceling the F-15. And the F-4 Phantom was a perfectly good jet airplane!" </Pseudo-Kerry-mode>
299 posted on 02/22/2004 3:45:45 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: diotima
Found this googling...

When His Bill Stalled In Committee, Kerry Proposed $1 Billion Cut As Amendment Instead.

Kerry proposed cutting $1 billion from the National Foreign Intelligence Program and Tactical Intelligence budgets, and freezing their budgets. The amendment was defeated, with even Graham, Lieberman and Braun voting against Kerry. (Amdt.. To H.R. 3759, CQ Vote #39: Rejected 20-75: R 3-37; D 17-38, 2/10/94, Kerry Voted Yea; Graham, Lieberman And Braun Voted Nay)

After all the above, he has the nerve to say this, after 9/11

12 Days After 9/11: Kerry Questioned Quality Of Intelligence. “And the tragedy is, at the moment, that the single most important weapon for the United States of America is intelligence. … And we are weakest, frankly, in that particular area. So it’s going to take us time to be able to build up here to do this properly.” (CBS’s “Face The Nation,” 9/23/01)

300 posted on 02/22/2004 3:50:12 PM PST by Dog (Bin Laden your account to America is past due......time to pay up.)
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