[Poison Pill]

I'm not trying to tell you what to you are supposed to believe. I said as much in post #84 (to BibChr) when I told you

"My point is you accept the role of the Jews in your Testment as a matter of faith. There is no proof or dis-proof of faith. You believe it. I don't. Once you state your faith in the text, what is left to discuss?"

So, I offered to go my way and let you go yours with no more said on the matter. You were having none of it(BibChr). You gave me the arrogant brush off and said that was a "cliche" (a "cliche" you now employ Klinghoffer to make for you) and asked me to get to the point which I did. Why is it "refreshing" from him and a "cliche" from me? Why when I offered to let your text be did you not let it go?

My primary concern is that Jews as a whole not get tarred with this accusation again. The Christian canon is of no concern to me.

So, I'll re-state what I said in #84 and maybe it will suffice this time. I can not dis-prove your faith and I don't wish to change what you believe. That is between you and your God. I ask the same courtesy from you (and no BibChr in my quiet moments I am not troubled by your text).

We can continue at daggers drawn if you want or I can leave you to your Sabbath.

[BibChr]

No daggers, just facts and a touch of philosophical awareness. You keep appealing to religion.

You've not responded to (nor indicated any grasp of) ##87, 98, or 92. And look; we didn't make Klinghofer up.

Nasty habit you have of shutting your eyes to inconvenient facts.

So, I'll stick with facts; you cling to religious prejudice, denial, and latter-day revisionism if you must.

(I guess to you, Clinton really was removed from office, eh? By law and rights, he *should* have been — so, to you, he was? Sad.)

Dan

[Dataman]

"My point is you accept the role of the Jews in your Testment as a matter of faith. There is no proof or dis-proof of faith.

Your statement reveals an unwillingness to consider the evidence. What good is it for a blind man to argue with eyewitnesses? Fortunately truth does not depend on your opinion and facts remain facts regardless of whether you consider them or not. If you had bothered to check out the link I provided, you would have noticed these words:

"On the eve of Passover they hung Jesus of Nazareth," said the passage, which was censored in the 16th century to evade the wrath of Christians. "The herald went out before him for 40 days saying, 'Jesus goes forth to be stoned, because he has practiced magic, enticed and led astray Israel. Anyone who knows anything in his favor, let him come and declare concerning him.' And they found nothing in his favor."

If armies of Jewish and Christian scholars insist on arguing about Mel Gibson's explosive movie "The Passion of The Christ," it would help if they were candid and started dealing with the hard passages in Jewish texts as well as the Christian scriptures.

My primary concern is that Jews as a whole not get tarred with this accusation again. The Christian canon is of no concern to me.

Gad man! Why not accuse us of stoking the ovens? No sane person blames all of the Jews for the death of Christ! This unwarranted paranoia exists only in the minds of the delirious or in the black hearts of troublemakers. If you really believe your own words, I suggest you go to the grocery store, get a week's supply of food and proceed to hide under the bed so no moviegoer will find you and dip you in tar.

Good grief.
Good unbelievably ignorant grief.