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No daggers, just facts and a touch of philosophical awareness. You keep appealing to religion.

You've not responded to (nor indicated any grasp of) ##87, 98, or 92. And look; we didn't make Klinghofer up.

Nasty habit you have of shutting your eyes to inconvenient facts.

So, I'll stick with facts; you cling to religious prejudice, denial, and latter-day revisionism if you must.

(I guess to you, Clinton really was removed from office, eh? By law and rights, he *should* have been — so, to you, he was? Sad.)

Dan

My concern is with (and only with) the Christian doctrine as it has been used to historically abuse Jews. It is not revisionist say this has happened. To the extent that no further abuse happens, I have no quarrel with Christianity or the text. Saying that I don't beleive in Christianity is not revision or denial. I'ts disagreement.

Posts you say I have not dealt with:

#87: The Clinton parallel does not work because for me because the out come is verifiable beyond doubt including taped testimony, video etc. Assuming all the evidence we have now would be available 1000 years hence, the out come would remain as it is today. However, if I did have the ability to change history Slick would be eating off an aluminum tray in Leavanworth.

Religous texts on the other hand (yours and mine) are not verifiable. You have to take them on faith and you either beleive or you don't.

#92: Again, I am not telling you what to believe nor am I saying you should change your text. I never accused you of making the Klighoffer quote up. I trust you are reporting it truthfully.

I have not said one thing about Mel Gibson or his movie. For the record, I don't consider him an anti-semite or a holocaust denier. I don't see how anyone has made the leap from a movie on Jesus to the holocaust. To the extent that his movie makes Christians more observant of their religion I'm all for it. Also, I would be well pleased if non-believers saw this movie and converted to Christianity in droves. I would much rather have 5 or 10 million more observant Christians in the country and 5-10 million fewer athiests. Furthermore, I hope he makes a pile of cash doing something he loves. All I ask is that Jews be left alone in the process and the aftermath. As far as Hutton Gibson goes, I think he's a flipping loon.

#98: I could not comment on a post that occured later than my original post. However, upon looking at it; I don't think Steven did it.

Also, as a matter of full disclosure on the Gibson movie situation: I think Abe Foxman is professional blowhard and the boycott and protest of the movie a useless waste of time. I think it will backfire and cause more people to see the movie which I think will be a good thing. I consider the ADL a left wing operation first and foremost.