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The Poor Keep Getting Poorer
Sierra Vista Herald/Review ^ | 19 February 2004 | Jim Behnke

Posted on 02/20/2004 11:22:20 AM PST by Spiff

The poor keep getting poorer

Jim Behnke
Sierra Vista Herald/Review
Opinion

When I was a kid, we only had one parent working - my dad - and we always seemed to have enough. Not plenty, but enough. This is particularly amazing in view of the fact that my dad was a preacher - you know how they overpay those guys - and had five children. Today it seems both parents have to work full time, and even then lots of families barely scrape by.

The latest issue of Time magazine has a book review about this subject. The book was written by David Shipler and reviewed by Richard Lacayo. It is titled "The Working Poor." Since I have not had a chance to read the book, I will refer to what Time magazine has to say about it. The author states that "low-wage employees have been testing the American doctrine that hard work cures poverty." He states that a lot of people are living on the edge of household financial disaster and cannot escape their poverty because there are a lot of things that keep them there - a low minimum wage, convenience stores that advance them cash at 20 percent interest on a two-week loan, unscrupulous bosses who falsify time sheets so they work longer hours for the same pay, garment workers paid by the piece, exorbitant housing costs just to mention a few. These are the working poor, and "they spend everything and save nothing." Shipler had solutions such as a higher minimum wage, better job training and medical coverage. But he predicts nothing will be done as these folks carry no weight in the political process. It's not a bright outlook for the working poor.

But what Shipler did not mention and I will is that things are going to get worse, and it is all because of illegal immigration. The government admits there are 10 million illegals in this country and knowledgeable people put that figure at closer to 20 million. Now at a time of abundant cheap labor and a 6 percent unemployment rate on its way to 7.9 percent, President Bush and many members of Congress want to bring in more cheap labor, albeit legally and for a period of three years. But the result will be the same. An overabundance of labor will only drive down wages making the poor poorer.

In Los Angeles, there are documented cases of illegals willing to work for $2 an hour. In another case, one of our own people, a Mexican-American asked her boss for a pay raise and health insurance and was told to be quiet or he would hire an illegal to take her place. The hiring halls in Phoenix are jammed with illegals looking for work and unscrupulous employers hire them because they don't have to pay taxes or health insurance and there are plenty more to take their place if they don't like what's going on.

Bill O'Reilly of Fox News is correct when he predicts that the new legal immigration proposals will bring in another 50 million people, this at a time when hundreds of thousands of Americans are unemployed, and the jobs we do have are being outsourced to India, Mexico and a host of other cheap labor countries. Bringing in more cheap labor will only acerbate our problems and will be a recipe for disaster for these United States not too mention the impact 50 million people will have on our hospitals, schools and police services. (According to the Border Patrol, 7 percent who enter our country illegally now have prior criminal records).

And finally, remember, low wages mean little or no taxes paid with resultant low revenues for our state budgets. California has learned that the hard way and the whole country will learn it next.

In the meantime, the poor will get poorer and poorer.

JIM BEHNKE is a Sierra Vista resident who retired as an Army lieutenant colonel. He can be contacted by e-mail at wethepeople33@juno.com. His column runs every other Thursday.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; borderintruders; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; invasion; poverty; workingpoor
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To: Spiff
Then he needs to address the difference in living standards - by today's standards, we were all living below the poverty level yet we thought we were living well. Now poverty is defined as not having enough stuff like microwaves, VCRs, DVDs, TVs, stereos, foreign cars, etc.
41 posted on 02/20/2004 1:01:15 PM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: xp38
I have to go dry my eyes and blow my nose now. Thanks a lot. Too funny. I am 3/4 Irish and 1/4 Cherokee. I drink too much, lie all the time, and keep losing my land to white people.

I work 58 hours a day at the mill. I get killed every night by the mill owner then my pay is docked for working too slow. When I go home my dad is too drunk to bury me.

CG
42 posted on 02/20/2004 1:08:31 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (I'm not stupid. I just act that way.)
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To: Spiff
"Today it seems both parents have to work full time, and even then lots of families barely scrape by. "

Solution: Do Not Have Children Until You Can Assume The Cost For All Their Needs.

I get fed up with the guys who go around bragging what great men they are. "Hung like Einstein and almost as smart as a horse" is what needs to be tattooted on their fore heads.

43 posted on 02/20/2004 1:09:19 PM PST by B4Ranch ( Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: B4Ranch
Illegals may well drive down the cost of housecleaning, gardening, handyman projects, and babysitting to the everyday homeowner who sees their best interest as saving money and letting someone else do work they don't have time for but want done. Until john q public wakes up and realizes they are also an employer and breaking the laws of the land, this problem will continue. These people won't benefit from increased minimum wage laws, they aren't covered in the first place.
44 posted on 02/20/2004 1:15:39 PM PST by pacpam (action=consequence applies in all cases)
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To: xp38
Monty Phython was the only funny thing ever on PBS in the early 70's.

CG
45 posted on 02/20/2004 1:23:38 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (I'm not stupid. I just act that way.)
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To: Spiff
Jim Behnke is no bozo. Not even close.

Darn tootin'! He's more like Crusty.

46 posted on 02/20/2004 1:39:28 PM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: 2banana
"One big oversite in this article, taxes in general and in particular on the poor have gone way up since Mr. Behnke was a kid."

You neglected to say that the reason for taxes increasing are the continuous supply of people who need assistance.

Close the borders and eject the illegals, Mr President!

47 posted on 02/20/2004 2:09:50 PM PST by B4Ranch ( Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: Spiff
Now at a time of abundant cheap labor and a 6 percent unemployment rate on its way to 7.9 percent

And the referee throws a "Bravo Sierra" flag on that play...

48 posted on 02/20/2004 2:11:18 PM PST by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Maj. Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: camle
"if the poor are getting poorer, then why did the government have to RAISE the poverty level to show more poor people? "

Simple asnswer is inflation. When gas, food and rent goes up you sink lower into the basket of poverty unless your wages rise to stay even or above the scale.

49 posted on 02/20/2004 2:11:36 PM PST by B4Ranch ( Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: dirtboy; Conspiracy Guy
"We were a classic nuclear family until my brother underwent decay and we fissioned."

You certainly were poor if you didn't even have enough water to keep your brother submersed in cool clear waters of safety.

50 posted on 02/20/2004 2:17:42 PM PST by B4Ranch ( Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: B4Ranch
At least his family had molecular structure.

CG
51 posted on 02/20/2004 2:19:41 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Conspiracy Guy's comments may not reflect his own opinions.)
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To: Spiff
for later
52 posted on 02/20/2004 2:21:41 PM PST by luckydevi
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To: AmusedBystander
Gald I read back through and someone gets it. It is the small to large employer to blame. I can't fault anyone who wants to come to America, but legally is the right way. If the illegals couldn't get work, most wouldn't come here.

CG
53 posted on 02/20/2004 2:22:08 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Conspiracy Guy's comments may not reflect his own opinions.)
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To: AmusedBystander
gald = glad. I need a cheap proof reader.
54 posted on 02/20/2004 2:30:46 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Conspiracy Guy's comments may not reflect his own opinions.)
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To: 2banana
One big oversite in this article, taxes in general and in particular on the poor have gone way up since Mr. Behnke was a kid.

Was the Earned Income Credit available when Behnke was a kid?

How about Section 8 Housing, Medicaid, Food Stamps, WIC, School Lunch program, SSI, etc., etc. - all part of the over $400 billion in federal and state giveaways to"Persons with Limited Incomes"?

Persons with limited incomes are the poor.

55 posted on 02/20/2004 2:32:20 PM PST by jackbill
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To: xp38; dirtboy; Conspiracy Guy
Talk aboput poor...

"We were so poor that all six children and my Ma and Pa lived in a 55 gallon drum, even now when I see a group of 55 gallon drums sitting together--I think of a mobile park."

"We were so poor, we wouldn't have noticed one way or the other," he said. "We managed to eat because we had good dogs that would run rabbits by you so you could kill them with a stick or rock. We couldn't afford to buy shells for a gun."

We were so poor that all we ever had for lunch was chicken feet sandwiches without bread.

We were so poor, all of my dreams were in black & white.

We were so poor that we'd sit on the front porch and crack our knuckles so the neighbors would think that we could afford walnuts.

56 posted on 02/20/2004 2:33:37 PM PST by B4Ranch ( Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
The only way they can get us in the world government is to break the U.S.
57 posted on 02/20/2004 2:38:28 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: B4Ranch
We were so poor we couldn't afford dreams. Or drums to live in. We slept in a culvert that was always flooded. I used to get spanked for wetting my mud in my sleep. But at least we had mud and each other. And we were happy.

Dreams were for the rich folks up the road who had drums and knuckles to crack. We didn't envy you because we knew that with success came pressure and pressure caused sadness. Above all we wanted to be happy.

I miss those days.

CG
58 posted on 02/20/2004 2:42:52 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Conspiracy Guy's comments may not reflect his own opinions.)
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To: international american
Ping to the we're so poor thread.
59 posted on 02/20/2004 2:50:42 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Conspiracy Guy's comments may not reflect his own opinions.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
Ahha, you were one of those scruffy little Duster weren't you. You were the ones that made me sneeze in church, making everyone close by slap me saying, "Boy, you'd better be quiet before I put a lid on your drum."
60 posted on 02/20/2004 3:24:18 PM PST by B4Ranch ( Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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