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Electoral College Breakdown, Installment Three
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Posted on 02/19/2004 5:27:12 PM PST by Dales

Edited on 02/20/2004 4:04:38 AM PST by Lead Moderator. [history]

Due to popular demand, I am going to revive my poll tracking and analysis that I did during the 2000 election season. I will be starting things a bit differently this year. Instead of starting off with a comprehensive overview of the entire nation, I am going to start by looking at five states at a time. For this third installment, the random state generator presented me with Nevada, Missouri, California, South Carolina, and Florida.


Nevada
Electoral Votes: 5
2000 Result
Bush 50%
Gore 46%

Background: Since 1964, Nevada has gone Republican every Presidential election except for the two victories by Bill Clinton, both of which were by very small margins (margins which were 1/9th the size of the Perot vote). Most of the other elections were comfortable wins for the GOP.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat
7/9/03 Mason-Dixon Link RV 4% Bush 51% Unnamed Democrat 23%
10/28/03 Magellan Research Link RV 4% Bush 32% Unnamed Democrat 23%
12/3/03 Southwest Group Link RV 4% Bush 50% Unnamed Democrat 34%
2/13/04 SurveyUSA Link 505 RV 4.5% Bush 49% Kerry 48%

Punditry: Don't get too excited over that July Mason-Dixon poll, as the phrasing of the question was such that only those who definitely were going to vote Democrat regardless of nominee ended up in that column. The Magellan Research poll didn't have the same bias but was phrased in a way that encouraged people to choose undecided by phrasing it "I will evaluate all candidates,including those from third parties, and choose the candidate that best represents my views." That kind of phrasing is bound to drive up the undecideds. Currently, this state has a Slight Advantage for Bush.


Missouri
Electoral Votes: 11
2000 Result
Bush 50%
Gore 47%

Background: Considered by many to be a bellwether state, Missouri has gone Republican in every election after 1964 except for three. Jimmy Carter beat Gerald Ford by a small, four point margin. Bill Clinton won the state twice, but both times relied on Perot taking double digits (over 20% in the first). From 1968 on, the only Democrat to break 50% in Missouri was Carter, and the only Republican to fail to get 50% absent a truly strong third party candidate was Ford.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat
9/9/03 Research 2000 Link 600 LV 4% Bush 49% Dick Gephardt 39%
1/29/04 Research 2000 Link 804 LV 4% Bush 45% Unnamed Democrat 40%

Punditry: As with most states, Bush has seen the Democrat challenger(s) surging with all the publicity they are getting during the primaries. Still, this battleground state is one that is more favorable for Republican Presidential candidates than most people realize, and Bush still holds the lead by a few points. This is a state Bush must hold, as it will be difficult to imagine that Missouri would fall without other dominos falling as well. For now, this state Leans for Bush.


California
Electoral Votes: 55
2000 Result
Gore 53%
Bush 42%

Background: On a three election streak for the Democrats, California has a reputation as a liberal bastion. While Gore did handle Bush easily in 2000, the fact is that the reputation may not fit the data on the Presidential level. Only three candidates have broken 53% in California since the 1964 landslide. Al Gore last time, homestate icon Ronald Reagan in his re-election campaign but not his first election, and Richard Nixon in his re-election campaign but not his first election.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat
8/16/03 Field NA RV 4% Bush 42% Unnamed Democrat 47%
8/16/03 Public Policy Institute NA LV 3% Bush 40% Unnamed Democrat 45%
1/3/04 Public Policy Institute Link LV 3% Bush 45% Unnamed Democrat 45%
1/13/04 Field NA RV 3.4% Bush 46% Unnamed Democrat 47%
1/18/04 Rasmussen NA LV 4% Bush 41% Unnamed Democrat 46%
2/13/04 Knowledge Networks Link RV 4.1% Bush 38% Kerry 42%

Punditry: Last election cycle, Bush thought California was in play, yet he got slaughtered. It turned out that the money and time he spent at the end of the campaign here could have and should have been spent in Florida and Michigan. But the territory here is not as hostile for Republican candidates as perception would indicate. A real advantage for Bush is that he will be able to use his position to gain free media exposure in this state which is extremely expensive for advertising. If by appearing for some official business with the Governator, Bush causes the Democrats to have to counter with advertising, that will be a huge factor elsewhere. For now, California Leans for the Democrats by the numbers, although it is awfully difficult to resist the perception that it should be listed as strong.


South Carolina
Electoral Votes: 8
2000 Result
Bush 57%
Gore 41%

Background: Jimmy Carter, from neighboring Georgia, won this state. You have to go back to JFK to find another Democrat who was able to do it. Most of the time, it was not all that close although Carter did make it close against Reagan too; the fact that a neighbor was able to twice make the state competitive (and once win it) means that the state will merit more attention should Edwards win the Democrat nomination.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat
7/28/03 Hickman Research Link ? ? Bush 52% Unnamed Democrat 36%

Punditry: While I do think Edwards topping the ticket could make SC more interesting, I don't see it stopping the state from remaining part of the Republican solid south. The same holds true if he is the VP nominee, only more so. This state has a Strong Advantage for Bush.


Florida
Electoral Votes: 27
2000 Result
Bush 48.85%
Gore 48.84%

Background: Despite the best efforts of the results-oriented Florida Supreme Court, Bush held on to win the state in 2000, just as every recount conducted afterwards validated. Did you know that since 1948, though, that only three times has Florida gone for the Democrat candidate? Johnson got 51%, Carter got 52%, and Clinton (2nd term) got 48% (with Perot taking 9%). More times than not, the Republican has come closer to 60%. Why Bush underperformed here to such a degree is something his campaign must rectify.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat
4/29/03 Mason-Dixon Link LV 5% Bush 53% Unnamed Democrat 38%
12/3/03 Schroth & Associates Link 800 RV 3.5% Bush 43% Unnamed Democrat 37%
1/15/03 Rasmussen Reports Link LV 5% Bush 47% Unnamed Democrat 45%

Punditry: It was a battleground in 2000, and it will likely be one again in 2004. It probably should not be, though, and Bush would do well to figure out exactly why he cannot connect with the Florida voters the way his brother can and does, and the way past Republicans have. This state has a Slight Advantage for Bush.


Summary Table
  Bush Democrat
  Safe Strong Lean Slight Tossup Slight Lean Strong Safe
  ND (3) CO (9) GA (15) NV (5) - NM (5) CA (55) - VT (3)
  AL (9) SC (8) NC (15) FL (27) - ME (4) - - MA (12)
  MT (3) - MO (11) - - - - - DC (3)
Designation
Total:
15 17 41 32 - 9 55 - 18
Candidate
Total:
78 41 73
Undesignated electoral votes: 351


Next installment: Wyoming, Delaware, Utah, Virginia, New York

Historical election data are located at Dave Leip's invaluable website.

Installment One
Installment Two


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: Florida; US: Missouri; US: Nevada; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: dales; ecb; electionpresident; electoralcollege; polls
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1 posted on 02/19/2004 5:27:12 PM PST by Dales
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To: Neets
Keeping you hopping ;-)
2 posted on 02/19/2004 5:27:43 PM PST by Dales
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To: Dales
I hate to keep posting this all over the Net, but IIRC this is the first time on FR.

"WeAther" refers to meteorology. "Wether" is a castrated ram, in other words wether is to sheep as eunuch is to human.

A "bellwether" is a wether that wears a bell and which the other sheep will follow.

"BellweAther" is an internettism that I am conducting a little crusade to eliminate.

Pardon, C.
3 posted on 02/19/2004 5:31:52 PM PST by Chris Talk (What Earth now is, Mars once was. What Mars now is, Earth will become.)
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To: Dales
Phew!! I am just glad I happen to still be on tonite!!!

;-)
4 posted on 02/19/2004 5:32:20 PM PST by Neets (Complainers change their complaints, but they never reduce the amount of time spent in complaining.~)
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To: Dales
As to the states, I think they are correctly called here, but they are too weakly called perhaps. I think both Fla and Nev are fairly strong for Bush; and Calif fairly strong for Dem.
5 posted on 02/19/2004 5:34:05 PM PST by Chris Talk (What Earth now is, Mars once was. What Mars now is, Earth will become.)
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To: Dales; nevergiveup; scan58; AuH2ORepublican; BoomerBob; Galatians513; onyx; KJacob; ...
Ladies and Gentlemen of FReeperLand.

May I present:

Electoral College Breakdown, Istallment THREE!!

Consider youse all PINGED!!!
6 posted on 02/19/2004 5:35:27 PM PST by Neets (Complainers change their complaints, but they never reduce the amount of time spent in complaining.~)
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To: Chris Talk
I appreciate the spelling correction. As you know, you were certainly correct.

As to your predictions, there is a long haul coming so while time will surely tell, it'll be many months.

7 posted on 02/19/2004 5:37:09 PM PST by Dales
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To: Dales; Neets
Whichever of you is running the ping list, please add me. Thanks.
8 posted on 02/19/2004 5:38:35 PM PST by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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To: Celtjew Libertarian
That'd be ME.

And I did.

Prego.
9 posted on 02/19/2004 5:39:38 PM PST by Neets (Complainers change their complaints, but they never reduce the amount of time spent in complaining.~)
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To: Dales
Are you doing a ping list? I'd love to be included. Thanks, and good work.
10 posted on 02/19/2004 5:40:54 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance
Added you to the list.
11 posted on 02/19/2004 5:41:28 PM PST by Neets (Complainers change their complaints, but they never reduce the amount of time spent in complaining.~)
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To: Dales
Due to popular demand, I am going to revive my poll tracking and analysis that I did during the 2000 election season

YAY !!!!!!! Thank you so much for your hard work. It will be great again as it was before. :-)

12 posted on 02/19/2004 5:41:57 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: PhiKapMom; Howlin
Give this man a hand and a ping.
13 posted on 02/19/2004 5:43:44 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Neets
please add me to the ping list ... I was a big Dales fan last go round. ;-)
14 posted on 02/19/2004 5:43:45 PM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: commish
Be happy to.

Isn't he just soooo good at this??
15 posted on 02/19/2004 5:45:37 PM PST by Neets (Complainers change their complaints, but they never reduce the amount of time spent in complaining.~)
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis; PhiKapMom; Howlin
You goils want on the ping list?
16 posted on 02/19/2004 5:46:19 PM PST by Neets (Complainers change their complaints, but they never reduce the amount of time spent in complaining.~)
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To: Dales
Hey, I appreciate your work. Please ping me too!
17 posted on 02/19/2004 5:46:41 PM PST by LadyPilgrim
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To: Chris Talk; Dales
A "bellwether" is a wether that wears a bell and which the other sheep will follow.

I knew how to spell it correctly, but didn't know the etymology. Thanks!

Dale -- thanks for the poll summaries. My gut tells me this is Bush's election to lose, and I have great confidence in his ability to win it. No way will this election be a replay of 2000. What I'm more concerned with is RNC "plans" for 2008 and beyond.

18 posted on 02/19/2004 5:47:55 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Neets
Hi there. Could you please add me to this ping list?? Much thanks!
19 posted on 02/19/2004 5:48:51 PM PST by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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To: Neets
I do....I do !!!!!!
20 posted on 02/19/2004 5:48:51 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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