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To: skip2myloo
Clinton was a real rat for his magazine ban and the AWB (which is really a semi-auto ban on 'evil features'...pistol grip* bayonet lug *flash suppressor)

George Bush Sr was also a real rat for his bill banning the importation of foreign semi auto rifles with the so called 'evil features'..which later morphed into the ban on any military look alike semi autos....no different than any other semi auto rifle...The ban was in reality a ban on furniture...

Congress was also filled with rats as they snuck this crap through in the middle of a Sunday night

Funny how it is that criminals ply their trade its in secrecy and darkness..and have so much in common with politicians...

They are boiling the frog here...and have proved themselves to be doing that over and over again...their real goal is the complete ban on all firearms for peons...

The elite will always retain their own firearms, have personal body guards, maintain a private police force (even the public one is motivated to protect them more) and live in the less crime prone neighborhoods....

The elite wish to feed the common man to the criminal class...to create a nation of sheep dependent upon Govt. to solve their every problem and meet their every need (however which problems and which needs will be determined by a greater power than sheep...the leaders themselves shall determine these things...of course)

The sheep are being placed in the position of giving away all their freedom in order that the state provides them with security...the criminal element aids the power grabbers in this...they are great allies...hence the disarming of sheep..while violent criminals are coddled...and society of course given all it needs to create more of these... Public Education...the media....the church....drugs sex rock n roll baby....out of wedlock parenthood all contribute to the makings of a crime plague...one which the Govt happily will provide the solution to...

Its divinely Machiavellian... imo

11 posted on 02/19/2004 5:10:32 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: joesnuffy
"Clinton was a real rat..."

"George Bush Sr was also a real rat..."

Ahhh! A FReeper after my own heart! He calls an ELITIST as he sees em. Nope, you're no BOT!

23 posted on 02/19/2004 7:47:53 AM PST by endthematrix (To enter my lane you must use your turn signal!)
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To: joesnuffy
I don't know if there's a grand plan, but that is certainly where we're heading.

Serfdom. And most sheeple will welcome it.

24 posted on 02/19/2004 8:51:43 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: joesnuffy
"Public Education...the media....the church....drugs sex rock n roll baby....out of wedlock parenthood all contribute to the makings of a crime plague...one which the Govt happily will provide the solution to...

Its divinely Machiavellian...

Now just hold on a minute there, Joe.

Just because all of what you wrote makes sense;

Just because it has all worked like clockwork over the last 30 or 40 years;

Just because the Left fights for it and the Right advances it anyway when they are in charge;

Just because law abiding citizens are criminalized and disarmed;

And just because our children are being dumbed down so that they down recognize what's happening to their liberties;

Just because. . .

You think it's a conspiracy?

I can't think of another, or better, reason either. So you must be right again.

27 posted on 02/19/2004 11:27:30 AM PST by Badray (Make sure that the socialist in the White House has to fight a conservative Congress.)
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To: joesnuffy
The sheep are being placed in the position of giving away all their freedom ..

Headed straight toward tyranny. Democracy will fail ultimately as the public trough runs dry, weapons will be rounded-up (for the chillrin'), those ultimately heirs to their father's traditions will have been made feminine and gelded while females will have been masculinized, liberated, and dyked.(Madonna, meet Britney)

Self-censorship will lead the way (thank you Janet Jackson, Justin Stupidlake, and all those who have pushed the envelope of 'taste' to it's breaking point- sock puppets all).

The lust for power is greater than anything Jimmy Carter had in his heart. The cure will require a major restructuring of this republic. Our American heritage need not be redefined, only re-instated. And it won't come cheap.

31 posted on 02/19/2004 4:47:39 PM PST by budwiesest (Lost)
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To: joesnuffy
George Bush Sr was also a real rat for his bill banning the importation of foreign semi auto rifles with the so called 'evil features'..which later morphed into the ban on any military look alike semi autos....no different than any other semi auto rifle...The ban was in reality a ban on furniture...

Lest we forget, Ruby Ridge was also on GHWB's watch. IIRC, there was no actual bill or even executive order from Bush 41 regarding semi-automatic firearms. From what I can gather, all he did was tell BATF to step up and exercise one of their functions as delineated in the '68 GCA - that of approving firearms for import.

Using an arbitrary list of evil parts, BATF made life miserable for importers, causing a number of them to go out of business. We can't hang the blame entirely on Bush the elder, though - the trade publications of the period contain ample proof that the domestic forearms manufacturers *wanted* restrictions on those imported weapons. Bush just killed two birds with one stone, making the anti-gun crowd AND the domestic manufacturers happy in one fell swoop.

It's important to reiterate that this nonsense pre-dates the Assault Weapons ban. If we are fortunate enough to see the AW ban sunset, there's no reason to believe that the BATF will change the policies that were adopted just pre-Clinton.

34 posted on 02/19/2004 10:39:23 PM PST by Cloud William
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