Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Hardball:Sen. John Edwards (on Iraq: No. I didn’t get misled)
msnbc ^ | Oct.13 2003 | hardball

Posted on 02/19/2004 3:43:19 AM PST by Eurotwit

Let me ask but the war, because I know these are all students and a lot of guys the age of these students are fighting over there and cleaning up over there, and they’re doing the occupation.

Were we right to go to this war alone, basically without the Europeans behind us? Was that something we had to do?

EDWARDS: I think that we were right to go. I think we were right to go to the United Nations. I think we couldn’t let those who could veto in the Security Council hold us hostage.

And I think Saddam Hussein, being gone is good. Good for the American people, good for the security of that region of the world, and good for the Iraqi people.

MATTHEWS: If you think the decision, which was made by the president, when basically he saw the French weren’t with us and the Germans and the Russians weren’t with us, was he right to say, “We’re going anyway”?

EDWARDS: I stand behind my support of that, yes.

MATTHEWS: You believe in that?

EDWARDS: Yes.

MATTHEWS: Let me ask you about-Since you did support the resolution and you did support that ultimate solution to go into combat and to take over that government and occupy that country. Do you think that you, as a United States Senator, got the straight story from the Bush administration on this war? On the need for the war? Did you get the straight story?

EDWARDS: Well, the first thing I should say is I take responsibility for my vote. Period. And I did what I did based upon a belief, Chris, that Saddam Hussein’s potential for getting nuclear capability was what created the threat. That was always the focus of my concern. Still is the focus of my concern.

So did I get misled? No. I didn’t get misled.

MATTHEWS: Did you get an honest reading on the intelligence?

EDWRADS: But now we’re getting to the second part of your question.

I think we have to get to the bottom of this. I think there’s clear inconsistency between what’s been found in Iraq and what we were told.

And as you know, I serve on the Senate Intelligence Committee. So it wasn’t just the Bush administration. I sat in meeting after meeting after meeting where we were told about the presence of weapons of mass destruction. There is clearly a disconnect between what we were told and what, in fact, we found there.

MATTHEWS: If you knew last October when you had to cast an aye or nay vote for this war, that we would be unable to find weapons of mass destruction after all these months there, would you still have supported the war?

EDWARDS: It wouldn’t change my views. I said before, I think that the threat here was a unique threat. It was Saddam Hussein, the potential for Saddam getting nuclear weapons, given his history and the fact that he started the war before.

MATTHEWS: Do you feel now that you have evidence in your hands that he was on the verge of getting nuclear weapons?

EDWARDS: No, I wouldn’t go that far.

MATTHES: What would you say?

EDWARDS: What I would say is there’s a decade long pattern of an effort to get nuclear capability, from the former Soviet Union, trying to get access to scientists...

MATTHEWS: What about Africa?

EDWARDS: ... trying to get-No. I don’t think so. At least not from the evidence.

MATTHEWS: Were you misled by the president in the State of the Union address on the argument that Saddam Hussein was trying get uranium from Niger?

EDWARDS: I guess the answer to that is no.

I did not put a lot of stock in that.

MATTHEWS: But you didn’t believe-But you weren’t misled?

EDWARDS: No, I was not misled because I didn’t put a lot of stock in to it begin with.

As I said before, I think what happened here is, for over a decade, there is strong, powerful evidence, which I still believe is true, that Saddam Hussein had been trying to get nuclear capability. Either from North Korea, from the former Soviet Union, getting access to scientists, trying to get access to raw fissile material. I don’t-that I don’t have any question about.

MATTHEWS: The United States has had a long history of nonintervention, of basically taking the “don’t tread on me and if you don’t we’ll leave you alone.” We broke with that tradition for Iraq. What is your standard for breaking with tradition of nonintervention?

EDWARDS: When somebody like Saddam Hussein presents a direct threat to the security of the American people and, in this case, the security of a region of the world that I think is critical.

MATTHEWS: A direct threat to us. What was it? Just to get that down. What is it? Knowing everything you know now, what was the direct threat this guy posed to us here in America?

EDWARDS: You didn’t get let me finish. There were two pieces to that. I said both a direct threat to us and a direct threat to a region of the world that is incredibly dangerous.

And I think that with Saddam Hussein, they’ve got nuclear capability, it would have changed the dynamic in that part of the world entirely. And as a result, would have created a threat to the American people. So that’s what I think the threat was.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2004; edwards; edwardswatch; hardball; matthews; msnbc; transcript
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-83 next last
To: Eurotwit
Talk about a "baited" interview. Edwards handled it very well.
61 posted on 02/19/2004 5:46:59 AM PST by Happy2BMe (U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LibLieSlayer
Matthews, the host of "Whiffleball", radiates as much grace as someone releasing gas in church!
62 posted on 02/19/2004 5:50:34 AM PST by leprechaun9 (Beware of little expenses because a small leak will sink a great ship!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Huck
What is this fat, no-ratings sissy talking about? American non-intervention in the Spanish American War? Mexican War? WWI? WW2? Korea? Nam? Grenada? IraqI? What planet is fatboy living on?

He must be referring to Clinton's non-intervention policy used in Haiti and the Balkans. I also appreciate the fact that Fatboy Matthews pointed out the truth that we went into Iraq "without the Europeans." I mean, who does George Bush think he is claiming that he has mulitlateral support just because the U.K., Poland, Italy, Spain, Denmark, Hungary, Bulgaria, Ukraine, Romania, the Netherlands, and Norway, along with Australia, Japan, South Korea, the Philippines, Thailand, El Salvador, and 17 other countries have committed troops to Iraq? I will be returning to Fatboy Matthews again and again for The Truth, fair & balanced!

63 posted on 02/19/2004 5:51:15 AM PST by HenryLeeII (John Kerry's votes have killed more people than my guns!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: GraniteStateConservative
You showed me one poll. Wow.

While this poll underscores Bush's vulnerabilities, he does retain his core strengths — broad approval for handling the war on terrorism and an image as a strong leader. And while most Americans believe his administration intentionally exaggerated evidence of Iraq's weapons of mass destructions, far fewer (21 percent) think it outright lied. Indeed, two-thirds think the administration honestly believed Iraq did possess these weapons. Most also continue to say the war has contributed to the long-term security of the United States.

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/US/bush_public_approval_poll_040212.html

The poll also says Bush's support is stronger than Kerry's. Go figure. The sheeple are mostly hearing one side of the story.

President Bush has an edge on the other major issue of the campaign season--national security. When asked who they trust more on national defense issues and the War on Terrorism, 52% of voters prefer Bush while 37% prefer Kerry.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Bush%20Kerry%20February%206.htm

And all sorts of articles say this is the lowest trustworthy point in Bush's presidency. The news coverage has basically been all Dems, 24/7. What do you think will happen to his rating when he starts fighting back? ...if/when Iraqi WMDs are found?

I'm not sure why, but for someone who was so gung ho GOP during the 2002 elections, you sure do seem to be expending a lot of effort publicly doubting President Bush.

64 posted on 02/19/2004 5:51:18 AM PST by Coop ("Hero" is the last four-letter word I'd use to describe John Kerry)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 57 | View Replies]

To: Coop
Tis a puzzle!
65 posted on 02/19/2004 5:57:11 AM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 64 | View Replies]

To: MEG33
You are right. I should have included Oct 2003 inside the parenthesis, or at least in the comment field.

I appologize.

66 posted on 02/19/2004 6:03:54 AM PST by Eurotwit
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 60 | View Replies]

To: Eurotwit
Well, the first thing I should say is I take responsibility for my vote.

Responsibility? A Democrat? Backs the president? How is the weather in hell today?

67 posted on 02/19/2004 6:05:30 AM PST by Between the Lines
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MEG33
Btw., that's also why I did not post the story under the news category. Only under misc and wot.

Still, that's no excuse.
68 posted on 02/19/2004 6:07:27 AM PST by Eurotwit
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 60 | View Replies]

To: Between the Lines
If you get past reading about his backing of the war in Iraq,where he sounds admirable,you'll see he attacks the President's character.
69 posted on 02/19/2004 6:08:59 AM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 67 | View Replies]

To: MEG33
I didn't get that far. I refuse to go to MSNBC. Thanks for the info.
70 posted on 02/19/2004 6:13:48 AM PST by Between the Lines
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 69 | View Replies]

To: Eurotwit
You are right. I should have included Oct 2003 inside the parenthesis, or at least in the comment field. I appologize.


Sen Edwards ought not be the focus in this interview...
It is the statements posed as questions by Chris Matthews which revealed his nihilism then, as he does now....

71 posted on 02/19/2004 6:17:48 AM PST by prognostigaator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 66 | View Replies]

To: William McKinley
Actually, this morning I saw on FN that Kerry was equating his position on free trade with Edwards ... "My position is exactly the same ..." ... then Edwards said something about disagreeing quite a bit with Kerry on trade ...

Kerry is doing what you said already
72 posted on 02/19/2004 6:33:25 AM PST by dartuser
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Eurotwit
The smooth talking Edwards most recent take about his vote was he did not know what President Bush knew.

This is what the leaked "memo" gives the road map to. We don't know everything President Bush knows.

That is their big problem, they have itched and whined and moaned all through the Administration about how secret the White House is.

So last year they knew they needed to plant the seeds of President Bush being a "liar" as per the old blowhard Teddy on the Senate floor. Their FEAR is that President Bush has intel they don't know and it might expose some of them in a compromising way.

They must at least get the masses to question President Bush's credibility.
73 posted on 02/19/2004 6:42:40 AM PST by Just mythoughts
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Martin Tell
He'll be out of politics for the next 4 years, probably going back to ambulence chasing, so I can't see how...
74 posted on 02/19/2004 6:44:43 AM PST by NYC Republican ("LIE after LIE after LIE after LIE" - TK. GOP Reaction? {{{{{crickets}}}}})
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Coop
I'm talking about overall honesty and trustworthiness, not just on particular issues.

I'm doubting the Office of Political Affairs. They don't seem very sharp. I don't know what's up with Rove.
75 posted on 02/19/2004 6:58:03 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative ("You can dip a pecan in gold, but it's still a pecan"-- Deep Thoughts by JC Watts)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 64 | View Replies]

To: MEG33
Oh, thanks.
76 posted on 02/19/2004 6:58:38 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative ("You can dip a pecan in gold, but it's still a pecan"-- Deep Thoughts by JC Watts)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | View Replies]

To: Huck
What is this fat, no-ratings sissy talking about? American non-intervention in the Spanish American War? Mexican War? WWI? WW2? Korea? Nam? Grenada? IraqI? What planet is fatboy living on?

Good points Huck. In fact, we had a continious intervention in Iraq beginning in August of 1990 with Desert Shield, followed by Desert Storm, then ground troops and air support in Northern Iraq to save the Kurds in the winter of 91-92, and 10 years of enforcing the Northern and Southern no-fly zones.

In Matthews universe, I guess all of that is somehow not intervention. The guy is just not too bright once his mouth gets rolling.

77 posted on 02/19/2004 7:03:22 AM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: GraniteStateConservative
I'm talking about overall honesty and trustworthiness, not just on particular issues.

So am I.

78 posted on 02/19/2004 7:04:43 AM PST by Coop ("Hero" is the last four-letter word I'd use to describe John Kerry)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 75 | View Replies]

To: William McKinley
(tell that to the Poles who just died, tell that to the Brits, tell that to the Aussies).

And the Italians, Spanish, Czechs, Koreans, Japanese, Bulgarians, Rumanians,.........

79 posted on 02/19/2004 7:05:35 AM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Ditto
He's a total idiot. Non intervention is a myth. I don't think America has practiced it since Washington left office. Matthews is a punk. I can't stand him.
80 posted on 02/19/2004 7:05:50 AM PST by Huck (OK. I'm over it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 77 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-83 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson