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1 posted on 02/18/2004 6:27:08 PM PST by TKDietz
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Let's assume for a minute that they "win" the WOD. What will be the next massive Governmental money grab from the citizens?
2 posted on 02/18/2004 6:29:09 PM PST by Enterprise ("Do you know who I am?")
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Walters, whose official title is director of the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy (search), demonstrated some of the technology contributing to this success. Mini-buster contraband detectors, night vision kits and wiretap systems were among several items on display at the exhibit.

Your police state at work. They get better at it every year.

3 posted on 02/18/2004 6:31:19 PM PST by Joe Bonforte
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Another tool is a drugwipe, which a police officer uses to wipe a surface to detect traces of marijuana, cocaine, opiates or amphetamines. If the drugs are present, the swab changes color.

One would think that were drugs actually present, no "drugwipe" would be needed to detect them. But it's a brave new world, and there are many things I don't understand.

10 posted on 02/18/2004 6:41:13 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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We've been winning the WOD for almost a century now.
11 posted on 02/18/2004 6:43:50 PM PST by Lexington Green (... and a cavity search for every schoolchild.)
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"We've had use go down by 11 percent by teenagers over the last two years. We haven't seen that happen in 10 years — 400,000 less kids are using drugs in 2003 than in 2001," Walters told an audience attending a counter-drug technology exhibit in Washington, D.C.

Just like a bureaucrat to take credit for a cultural trend with no data to support any nexus between the two. Which reminds me; I parked my truck for the winter and look how cold it's been, I think I reversed Global Warming!

15 posted on 02/18/2004 7:00:01 PM PST by TigersEye (Carrying a gun is a social obligation.)
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Well, I'm certainly glad we are winning the War On Drugs! Let's lock up all them hippie freako potheads and speed freaks! We need to protect our precious middle class America!

Now excuse me, but I've got to wash down my Paxil with my nightly martini. Then I've got to get the Ritalin for my 7 year old ready for his DrugFreeSchool tomorrow... and the dose of pink bubblegum flavored liquid Prozac for my 4 month old baby girl.... my wife needs her dose of prescription diet pills... and of course grandpa needs his lithium because without it he complains too much about being stuck in a wheelchair...... and.......

16 posted on 02/18/2004 7:19:08 PM PST by Seruzawa (A Dr. may give you anti-depressants... you're still a junkie like a smackhead.)
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Rush going to Rehab singlehandedly turned the stats around?
17 posted on 02/18/2004 7:29:46 PM PST by swarthyguy
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YAY! WAR ON DRUGS!

WHAT A F****N SUCCESS!

YAY GOVMINT!


19 posted on 02/18/2004 7:36:04 PM PST by H2dude
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Drug Czar: Tide Turning in Drug War......

Yeah, sure. Maybe if you say it enough somebody will start to believe it.

20 posted on 02/18/2004 7:39:28 PM PST by wireman
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"The federal government is encouraging the militarization of local police forces by giving away weaponry and providing advisers," Barr said, commenting on general trends in policing, not only on anti-drug policies."

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It's incredible that these Fed fools don't realize what a dangerous game they are playing..

Do they really believe that the American people will just sit back and accept a police state based on perpetual 'wars'?
21 posted on 02/18/2004 7:52:51 PM PST by tpaine (I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but the U.S. Constitution defines conservatism; - not the GOP. .)
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We have two examples of our gov't's equal application of our publicly-espoused moral and societal standards to every country:

1. The massive increase in opium acreage now that the Taliban are out of power. After all, the CIA is friendly fwith those war-lords.

2. Pakistan's sale of nuclear technology and materials.

I wonder why all those people don't believe "our" gov't?

23 posted on 02/18/2004 9:14:33 PM PST by jedi (Pre-digested opinions are so much simpler to assimilate)
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I'd be real curious how he thinks he is getting anywhere close to an accurate audit (to a smaller degree of error than the 10% or so he's claiming) of teen marijuana usage. It's mostly clandestine so it's hard to measure.
26 posted on 02/18/2004 10:55:50 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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Calling All Economists!!!

I don't know jack about economics....but if the drug war were to be truly successful, and those hundreds of billions of dollars being traded and trickling down were gone....it seems that it would be cause for a global economic wound. Do you think the "powers that be" are aware of this? Dam right. The war on drugs isn't being prosecuted for results because we can't afford the results of a real victory.

Again, though, if a FReeper economist could give me an indication as to what it might be like if the illegal drug trade ceased to exist completely, it would be greatly appreciated.
30 posted on 02/19/2004 2:56:16 AM PST by LanaTurnerOverdrive
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Victory is Just Around the Corner.
31 posted on 02/19/2004 5:34:05 AM PST by Imal (The War on Drugs proves that sobriety does not equal sanity.)
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America is achieving historic successes in the war on drugs,

LOLOLOLOL!

32 posted on 02/19/2004 5:35:44 AM PST by OXENinFLA (Kyle---"Hey Wendy, you're a B**** and Token, Right here pal." (South Park watchers know what I mean))
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This account makes the classic mistake of assuming that the factors it is concerned with are the reasons for the reduction in use when there are other factors not taken into account and not controlled for.

The most prominent one would be the absence of a leisure drug culture in positions of high office centered on the president and his pals such as Tyson. We will never know the full damage done by the Little Rock orgy and drugs culture that grew up around Clinton and his pals being plugged into the nation's highest offices with all of its defensive, lying accusations (i.e., it wasn't us because we lied about it being the Bush brothers so you would never look at us and then we used our power to make sure the FBI would never be able to use its background-checking power to find out the truth). But it is for sure the case that having George W. and Laura Bush in the White House and a president who actually believes rather than one who swings a Bible as a cover for BJ's with interns has done an enormous amount to reduce drug usage. Further, having a real enemy, an enemy that must be led against to be defeated, with such a President in charge, tends also to elimiinate the moral and spiritual vacuum that leads to much of the drug use contributes.

33 posted on 02/19/2004 5:44:07 AM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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"Former Rep. Bob Barr (search), R-Ga., now a civil liberties advocate, said that on a recent visit to a small West Georgia police department, the chief showed off several shiny new M-16 rifles provided by the Federal Emergency Management Agency (search)."

Oh good. Now I feel safe from all the gang bangers with automatic weapons that roam the streets out here in rural west Georgia.

I wonder if the police will use their own ammo shooting those M-16's off duty at the chiefs spread while drinking up a few beers. (The chiefs nephew works with me and has a big, braggert mouth.)

34 posted on 02/19/2004 5:45:14 AM PST by Vigilantcitizen
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You forgot the "humor alert".
37 posted on 02/19/2004 6:08:37 AM PST by JohnGalt ("...but both sides know who the real enemy is, and, my friends, it is us.')
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To: Wolfie; vin-one; WindMinstrel; philman_36; Beach_Babe; jenny65; AUgrad; Xenalyte; Bill D. Berger; ..
WOD Ping
38 posted on 02/19/2004 6:16:20 AM PST by jmc813 (Help save a life - www.marrow.org)
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The battle against mother nature continues.

BREAKING: Ashcroft swears out a warrant against God for creating cannabis.

41 posted on 02/19/2004 6:26:35 AM PST by Sir Gawain (Republicans give spineless cowards a bad name)
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