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Drug Czar: Tide Turning in Drug War
Fox News ^
 | Wednesday, February 18, 2004
 | By Peter Brownfeld
Posted on 02/18/2004 6:27:08 PM PST by TKDietz
Edited on 04/22/2004 12:39:02 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: drugczar; drugtrafficking; johnwalters; prohibition; wod
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To: Jack of all Trades
    Your wasting your breath. We have tried to get these WODdie clods to understand that the Constitution is not an enumeration of rights for years now. They refuse to get it. They refuse to read Madison. I don't know what more we can be expected to do to help them.
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posted on 
02/20/2004 8:38:24 AM PST
by 
jayef
 
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To: onmyfeet
    You beat me to it. Amateurs. Please read your founding fathers.
83
posted on 
02/20/2004 11:34:13 AM PST
by 
jayef
 
To: Seruzawa
    Have you heard the latest about teenagers OD-ing on cough medicine?
84
posted on 
02/20/2004 11:36:47 AM PST
by 
NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
(Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
 
To: jayef
    We do not assert that Bill Clinton alone caused the effect. The general culture, both elite and pop, has much to do with it. But there also you will note that Bill Clinton took his saxophone and deliberately joined and sought to use the pop culture, such as it is, despite his clever attack on Sister Souljah. But why are individuals spouting very bad poetry about "hos" and cop-killing given a free ride on their very bad art and even lionized for it? Does it not parallel the free ride given to so-called "black readers" who participate with them in destroying our culture rather than creating within it? Are these things not of a piece?
85
posted on 
02/20/2004 12:43:08 PM PST
by 
AmericanVictory
(Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
 
To: TKDietz
    The war on drugs can't be won, the same way the 'war on crime' can't. Doesn't mean you throw in the towel. Just means it's a stupid name for crime control.
86
posted on 
02/20/2004 12:44:28 PM PST
by 
Monty22
 
To: tpaine
    If that wasn't a rhetorical question, the answer is, apparently "yes".
To: Enterprise
    Let's assume for a minute that they "win" the WOD. Impossible
 
88
posted on 
02/20/2004 12:51:45 PM PST
by 
Protagoras
(When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
 
To: Monty22
    Doesn't mean you throw in the towel. When coupled with the fact that the whole thing is moronic, it means exactly that.
 
89
posted on 
02/20/2004 12:53:47 PM PST
by 
Protagoras
(When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
 
To: Protagoras
    To me, moronic is allowing unrestricted access to any life destroying drug out there. 
 
Guess it's a different definition for some. To some, moronic means not being able to get high when they want. 
 
To most others though, the opposite is moronic.
90
posted on 
02/20/2004 12:58:32 PM PST
by 
Monty22
 
To: Protagoras
    "Impossible" I came to the conclusion in 1985 that the WOD was over, the bad guys won. I still feel that way.
 
91
posted on 
02/20/2004 1:01:06 PM PST
by 
Enterprise
("Do you know who I am?")
 
To: Monty22
    To me, moronic is allowing unrestricted access to any life destroying drug out there. To me, moronic is destroying the country while attempting to restrict people from doing things which do not concern you.
To most others though, the opposite is moronic.
Nice try at an old trick, pretending you have a majority position as if it would make any difference to whether something is right or wrong.
 
92
posted on 
02/20/2004 1:04:29 PM PST
by 
Protagoras
(When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
 
To: Enterprise
    Who are the bad guys? People who are pursuing happiness? Those bad guys? Don't confuse stupid with bad.
93
posted on 
02/20/2004 1:06:23 PM PST
by 
Protagoras
(When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
 
To: Protagoras
    Oh, I don't think my opinion is right because a majority backing of it. It's right from the foundations of it. 
 
And you're using hyperbole.. 'destroying' the country. 
 
Almost all laws out there restrict people from doing 'what they want' in some cases. Too bad. 
 
Also, I think legalized drugs tend to destroy a country far far worse than law enforcement.
94
posted on 
02/20/2004 1:08:50 PM PST
by 
Monty22
 
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To: Monty22
    It's right from the foundations of it. Incorrect, but your opinion is noted before being discarded.
And you're using hyperbole.. 'destroying' the country.
 The first prohibition created a generation of lawbreakers, the country has never recovered. It's not hyperbole just because you don't understand history.
Almost all laws out there restrict people from doing 'what they want' in some cases. Too bad. 
 Which has nothing whatsoever to do with rights.
 Also, I think legalized drugs tend to destroy a country far far worse than law enforcement
 It never occurred to me that you would feel any other way. Many people value power over others and a feeling of moral superiority more than freedom. That is why the experiment failed and tyranny reigns.
 
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posted on 
02/20/2004 1:18:36 PM PST
by 
Protagoras
(When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
 
To: TKDietz
    Former Rep. Bob Barr (search), R-Ga., now a civil liberties advocate, said that on a recent visit to a small West Georgia police department, the chief showed off several shiny new M-16 rifles provided by the Federal Emergency Management Agency For the children, no doubt.
"The federal government is encouraging the militarization of local police forces by giving away weaponry and providing advisers," Barr said, commenting on general trends in policing, not only on anti-drug policies. 
Just another liberdopertarian who wants to smoke pot, obviously. 
< / WoDie talkingpoint >
 
97
posted on 
02/20/2004 1:30:51 PM PST
by 
MileHi
 
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