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To: phil_will1
Isn't it far more likely that Ford and GM will open up manufacturing operations in China, or at least somewhere a lot closer to them than we are?

Nope, for the same reason BMW doesn't manufacture all of it's cars over here. It's shipped across cheaper cars like their SUVs to be made here, but the higher quality, "German precision engineering" stuff is still made in Germany. Ditto for the Chinese stuff. Which Chinaman would buy a Chinese made car, knowing it may blow up in his face? He'd buy quality -- American.
103 posted on 02/17/2004 9:17:11 AM PST by Cronos (W2K4!)
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To: Cronos
The only reason American name cars are currently being sold in China is because new automobile plants are being built by American manufacturers tehre. By the way how many cars can an average Chinese in the Beijing area where teh average income is more than double the countryside buy? Lets see now at $2500/yr annual salary that leaves a whole lot to buy a car right. Grow up and understand the reality does not fit free trade lies.
107 posted on 02/17/2004 9:27:46 AM PST by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: Cronos
Nope, for the same reason BMW doesn't manufacture all of it's cars over here. It's shipped across cheaper cars like their SUVs to be made here, but the higher quality, "German precision engineering" stuff is still made in Germany. Ditto for the Chinese stuff. Which Chinaman would buy a Chinese made car, knowing it may blow up in his face? He'd buy quality -- American.

You don't know the BMW manufacturing situation very well. I have owned two, and as far as 'precision' goes, the robots don't know which country they are in. As for the Chinese, they are intensely nationalistic, unlike the Cato-anti fair traders here...and they will buy Chinese when they can. And right now the Government doesn't even give them a choice, with its unrepentant and unapologetic protectionism. Why should they apologize if we are foolish enough to ship all our capital to them? I.e., their strategy is working...and your strategy of 'capitalism subverting them' is losing so badly ...it is of mythic proportions...I.e., "Greatest Business Blunders of the late-20th Century, etc."

119 posted on 02/17/2004 12:27:10 PM PST by Paul Ross ("A country that cannot control its borders isn't really a country any more."-President Ronald Reagan)
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To: Cronos; harpseal
Cronos, the troll, now wants us to believe that PRC slave-laborers will buy American-made cars (which one? Intrepid? Vette? Taurus)--shipped over to PRC, on your basic $0.27/hour income.

MILLIONS of them in the next 5 years.

Crony also has invented a Chinese Middle Class (what's that? $0.75/hour???) forgetting that the real middle class in China is either: 1) relatives of current PRC bigwigs; or 2) Triad bosses.

I don't think one should waste too much time with him.
126 posted on 02/17/2004 3:19:57 PM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Cronos
German cars aren't sold here in any great numbers, unless you count Chrysler as German.
134 posted on 02/18/2004 6:35:53 AM PST by Outsourcing=Competition
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