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Why Are Universities Dominated by the Left?
Tech Central ^ | 2/13/04 | Edward Feser

Posted on 02/16/2004 1:34:03 PM PST by BroncosFan

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To: BroncosFan
Why are law professors so far left? Answer: They are refugees from the legal profession. They could not hack it in the real world so they sought the safe tenured environment of a professorship.


They dominate legal think tanks and ABA organizations. If any conservative want a "safe" target, pick any law school.
22 posted on 02/16/2004 2:42:33 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: BroncosFan
"Why Are Universities Dominated by the Left?"

Because they only thrive where no objective standard of accomplishment is used to measure them.

23 posted on 02/16/2004 2:47:49 PM PST by muir_redwoods
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To: BroncosFan
As a conservative professor (who just completed a book on the history of the U.S. and had to deal, at least in passing, with this topic), I'm still unclear as to why academics, like journalism, is so overwhelmingly dominated by the left. Some slant, one could expect. But the dominance is overpowering.

Since I'm a historian, my take on it is this: in the early 1950s, McCarthyism had many universities firing professors who were innocent or, usually at worst, marginal socialists (often not "card carrying communists"). While I think there were many CLEAR communists operating in the system, I don't think it was close to the number that were ostracized. However . . . .

Once that period ended, the universities felt they had to "make up" for their previous actions, and swung radically the other way, now essentially arguing that NO ONE'S politics could be considered when hiring them. This ensconced many of the leftists who then, being good leftists, never once had a similar notion of fairness about other peoples' politics. In other words, although the universities once played fair, once the leftists got in a majority, all that stopped.

A second, more destructive feature, involved the left's domination of the disciplines, editorial boards, and grad schools insofar as it involves the writing and refereeing of articles and dissertations. Without getting into too much academic mumbo-jumbo, it cam down to this: METHODOLOGY DEFINED THE APPLICANTS/STUDENTS. For example, doing "biography" or "military history" (in my discipline) was no longer considered "cutting edge." Instead, the leftist profs demanded leftist methodologies---quantitative/social history (instead of old fashioned business history or biography), race/class analysis (instead of old fashioned straightforward ideological history). So "conservative" students politically now had an even tougher time because to "get in the club," you had to adopt methodologies that were abhorrent to your very nature. I've served on many search committees where applicants with what we would call "traditional history" topics are immediately weeded out as "not deep enough" or not "cutting edge enough."

Again, speaking only for the discipline of history, the ONLY way a conservative can survive is to 1) be good enough in the methodologies that you can master them while simultaneously using them to undercut leftism (as many economic historians have done); 2) go into business history (one of the few fields relatively untouched by this stuff); 3) be black or a "protected" minority, then you can do whatever the hell you want and they can't say anything; 4) lie---basically look like a liberal for 6 years until you get tenure then do what you want.

My personal approach was a combination of 1 and 2, combined with a publication record as a graduate student that even liberals could not ignore. Even so (and I like my employer), I did not end up with offers from Berkeley or Penn, but from a small midwestern school. I remain convinced though that talent cannot be repressed, even by leftist ideology.

24 posted on 02/16/2004 2:57:22 PM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrack of news.)
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To: BroncosFan
UHHHHHH, HELLO?

He left out the main functional, practical reason!

As I saw from documents in my Special Collections acting director job at my university library . . .

Soviet Communists decided early on to seek to fracture our society by spending millions of dollars insuring the placement in as many universities as possible those who would teach their party line--especially that there was no absolute right or wrong and that many special interest groups were disadvantaged to horribly abused by capitalism and needed rescued.

This notion used to be sneered at until the "fall" of the Soviet Union and KGB files outlining the 10's of millions of dollars spent on these projects came to light.

No, I don't have the refs. I have read of some such on FR, in past threads, though.
25 posted on 02/16/2004 3:04:29 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: blanknoone
self ping
26 posted on 02/16/2004 3:21:30 PM PST by blanknoone
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To: BroncosFan
The profs are Leftist in several departments. English, Philosophy, Political Science, Economics have all benefited from radical progressive thought of the past centuries and the tumult of serious conflict and industrialization especially in Europe. When Conservatives get their act together enough to match the heavy thinking of the Leftists, then the profs will be more evenly distributed.
27 posted on 02/16/2004 3:30:45 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: Modernman
Wolverine ping.
28 posted on 02/16/2004 3:52:13 PM PST by BroncosFan ("Is it chicken or tuna?")
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To: Quix
I think you're right. Current academia appears to be a long-running, Soviet think-tank program reaching it's end cycle.

The KGB sources you refer to are the Venona papers. I believe Alamo-girl has these at her site.

Senator McCarthy was more right than he ever realized, IMHO.
29 posted on 02/16/2004 4:03:04 PM PST by martian_22 (Who tells you what you are?)
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To: BroncosFan
self^
30 posted on 02/16/2004 4:16:51 PM PST by King Prout (I am coming to think that the tree of liberty is presently dying of thirst.)
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To: BroncosFan
"The most fundamental fact about the ideas of the political left is that they do not work. Therefore we should not be surprised to find the left concentrated in institutions where ideas do not have to work in order to survive." ~ Thomas Sowell ~

31 posted on 02/16/2004 4:22:45 PM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (PEACE - Through Superior Firepower)
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To: Gefreiter
The draft-dodger theory might be true for some, but anecdotally some of the most far-left profs I had in college served in the military. One radical prof was a Marine in Vietnam.

The author does make a lot of good points, but one I'd like to make is the separation of intelligence theory. Some people who may be intelligent in certain areas (literature, music, art, etc.) do not necessarily have good common sense. The best presidents tend to be the ones who have a good idea of what is best for the country and are not dissuaded by cheap pseudo-intellectual trendy arguments. They knew right from wrong and weren't afraid to suffer the consequences.

In my mind the worst political leader of the western countries was Pierre Trudeau. He was an intellectual who thought he knew it all. He was witty and humorous...and a far-left lib. He actually thought far-left liberalism made sense. In contrast Bill Clinton was just an opportunist. He knew that the far-left theories were nonsense, but he loved the acclamation that came with associating with the intellectual "elite". That is why most college profs loved Clinton. He sucked up to them big-time. Here was a pres who understood their cockamamie socialist claptrap and fooled them into thinking that he actually believed that leftist garbage.

32 posted on 02/16/2004 4:25:56 PM PST by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion. ie)
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33 posted on 02/16/2004 4:29:24 PM PST by King Prout (I am coming to think that the tree of liberty is presently dying of thirst.)
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To: BroncosFan
As a tenured professor who has fought the leftist academic paradigm for 25 years, I would agree that each of these varied hypotheses has merit.

I think however that one of the most important factors was not addressed. This has to do with the growth of higher education into a major industry, and its absolute dependence on government funding. Giant public universities, of course, receive direct government appropriations. Tuition and fees cover only a fraction of the cost, and even these are mostly paid from various forms of government financed financial aid. Even the great majority of small private institutions would have to close their doors tomorrow if their students were suddenly ineligible for federal grants and loans.

It is therefore in the collective interest of university faculty and administrators to favor public, as opposed to private, enterprise; and to advocate positions that expand the role of public enterprise. The enormous size of the modern higher education system then comes into play. In many fields, the objective of advocacy is to create a need for large numbers of graduates of that field.

In my field, geoscience, this is not a consideration. All of our graduates can have good jobs for the asking, some in vital government services whose legitimacy has been established for generations, and some in private industry.

This is not the case in some of the most popular fields. What political position must one adopt, for example, to legitimize the employment of large numbers of "diversity studies" graduates?

For example, the study of cultural interaction and its consequences is obviously legitimate in an academic sense, but is it profitable in ways that would turn a small and arcane academic interest into a major industry? If one can convince society that bigotry is rampant and must be addressed by degreed specialists at every level, then such a transformation is possible.

34 posted on 02/16/2004 4:33:06 PM PST by atomic conspiracy ( Anti-war movement: Roadkill on the highway to freedom.)
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To: BroncosFan
Government funding = welfare state = leftists
35 posted on 02/16/2004 4:38:14 PM PST by Stallone (Guess who Al Qaeda wants to be President?)
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To: theDentist
You really don't have to "produce" anything

Yes, having to produce or maintain an actual physical product, or provide a time/quality sensitive service, would expose them to being critiqued (or being fired) by their customers. With their air of intellectul superiority, its no surprise that so few of them engage in productive activities that would require them to compete on terms with the rest of us whose work is often tangible and is constantly evaluated. Their insular world allows compensation sans the risks associated with production.

36 posted on 02/16/2004 4:42:52 PM PST by Starboard
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To: LS
Amen to that. I found that the acolytes of trendy "social" history totally sucked the oxygen out of the rest of the history department. I flirted with Ph.D.-hood in what I thought was a pretty mainstream field -- antebellum US political history. To my dismay, the 2 best junior faculty up for tenure (who studied NE state politics and Southern Whig thought, respectively, and were both pretty liberal guys) were passed over for woman from a small state college in New England whose specialty was the study of the homespun clothing industry in 1820s Vermont and how it empowered women. She got tenure, the other two left.

As far as military/diplo history was concerned, I managed to slip in two papers on Winfield Scott and was told each time something to the effect of, "Yours is the only research paper we've seen on a general that doesn't excorate its subject. Try not to do this anymore."

37 posted on 02/16/2004 5:28:19 PM PST by BroncosFan ("Is it chicken or tuna?")
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To: martian_22
Thanks. I just saw the early

A) plans to do so

and

B) the early allegations that they had done so--back around . . . 1966.

And those were older documents at that time.
38 posted on 02/16/2004 5:28:38 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: driftless
Oh, you're right- they can't ALL be draft-dodgers.

I think you're on about intelligence theory. I was a pretty bright kid (if I do say so myself!), voracious reader, into music, etc, kinda like what you describe.

It sure was a shock when I went through Basic Training. The Army taught me I didn't know s--t about s--t up to that point. I had to learn common sense!
39 posted on 02/17/2004 5:13:32 AM PST by Gefreiter
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To: BroncosFan
I had a very liberal professor at U of M say that Americans send their kids to liberal schools as part of an innoculation (rather than indoctrination) process. College kids get exposed to liberal ideas when they're young so they can get the whole thing out of their system before they grow up and join the adult world. Of course, some kids do end up indoctrinated.
40 posted on 02/17/2004 6:29:17 AM PST by Modernman ("When you want to fool the world, tell the truth." -Otto von Bismarck)
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