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September 2004 Assault Weapons Ban Sunset: Soccer Moms -vs- NASCAR Dads

Posted on 02/15/2004 10:45:42 AM PST by mosel-saar-ruwer

Okay - the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban is set to sunset in September of 2004, two months before the general election:

http://www.awbansunset.com/future.html
I can see many, many scenarios, but all of them get back to Soccer Moms -vs- NASCAR Dads. Here are two of them:
1) There is another big terrorist attack, the Soccer Moms get scared, and come home to the Republicans. Voter sentiment favors the Second Amendment, self-defense, and self-preservation. Bush supports sunsetting, Kerry supports extension, big win for Bush.

2) No further terrorist attacks. Further drip, drip, drip of causualties in Iraq and Afghanistan. Voters become complacent about security issues. Possible Columbine-esque school shooting further energizes the anti-defense, anti-security, anti-gun lobby. Teresa Heinz adopts the Assault Weapons Ban as her signature issue; Soccer Moms flock to her. Dubyah and Laura get nervous, betray the NASCAR Dads, and sign on for an Assault Weapons Ban extension. NASCAR Dads are demoralized, stay home. Soccer Moms elect John Kerry.

I don't think the Assault Weapons Ban will be the pivotal issue - that will almost certainly be the economy and the outsourcing of white collar jobs to Bangalore. But in a number of swing states [Florida, Wisconsin, Oregon], where a few thousand votes determine the Electoral College prize, I think the Assault Weapons Ban may determine which group of voters [Soccer Moms - Kerry, NASCAR Dads - Bush] is energized, and which is demoralized.

Your thoughts???


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: awban; bang; nascardads; soccermoms
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1 posted on 02/15/2004 10:45:43 AM PST by mosel-saar-ruwer
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To: mosel-saar-ruwer
Mossberg bump.
2 posted on 02/15/2004 10:47:00 AM PST by mosel-saar-ruwer
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To: mosel-saar-ruwer
Possible Columbine-esque school shooting further energizes the anti-defense, anti-security, anti-gun lobby.

Something like this always happens before a gun bill vote. Coincidence?

3 posted on 02/15/2004 10:48:57 AM PST by aomagrat (IYAOYAS)
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To: mosel-saar-ruwer
BLOAT!
4 posted on 02/15/2004 10:50:12 AM PST by tet68
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To: tet68
bloat ? Translation for the acroynm challenged please.
5 posted on 02/15/2004 10:54:32 AM PST by Kudsman (Read any good Zot's lately?)
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To: mosel-saar-ruwer; Joe Brower; Travis McGee; archy; 45Auto; Shooter 2.5
some of us here have been predicting another columbine in the weeks leading up to the sunset.
I don't think we have gone so far as to establish a betting pool... yet.
6 posted on 02/15/2004 10:55:19 AM PST by King Prout (I am coming to think that the tree of liberty is presently dying of thirst.)
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To: Kudsman
Buy
Lots
Of
Ammo
Today
!

molon labe
7 posted on 02/15/2004 10:56:14 AM PST by King Prout (I am coming to think that the tree of liberty is presently dying of thirst.)
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To: mosel-saar-ruwer
Bush signs this, he's done.

That simple.

8 posted on 02/15/2004 10:59:00 AM PST by Dan from Michigan ("LET'S GO RED WINGS!!!!")
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To: aomagrat
"Coincidence?"

No, the number of conjoined incidents make coincidence a statistical improbability.

The question must then become one of causation.
1. Are these events and instigated by those standing to profit politically from them?
2. Is the fact of an impending RKBA vote (and the media hoopla surrounding it) enough to trigger these events by activating loonies with a desire for fame and notoriety?

I cannot even pretend to answer this. Insufficient data.
9 posted on 02/15/2004 11:00:42 AM PST by King Prout (I am coming to think that the tree of liberty is presently dying of thirst.)
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To: Dan from Michigan
Bush signs this, he's done.

That's my gut feeling, as well.

But never underestimate the proclivity for a Bush to cut and run when the going gets tough. I can see a scenario where, as above, Teresa Heinz adopts the AWB as her signature issue, Laura Bush gets jealous, and together with Karl Rove she convinces Dubyah that he has to sign on for some sort of extension.

10 posted on 02/15/2004 11:02:12 AM PST by mosel-saar-ruwer
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To: mosel-saar-ruwer
Soccer Moms - Kerry, NASCAR Dads - Bush

Are the Soccer Moms and the NASCAR Dads married to each other? If so, they cancel each other out, leaving the deciding votes to Beretta Boys, Mossberg Men, and Glock Girls.

11 posted on 02/15/2004 11:07:45 AM PST by spodefly (February is Tagline History Month!)
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To: Kudsman
Buy Lots Of Ammunition TODAY!
12 posted on 02/15/2004 11:08:55 AM PST by tet68
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To: tet68
It's always a good time to stock up on more durable goods and non-reusable items.
13 posted on 02/15/2004 11:17:11 AM PST by Mini-14
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To: spodefly
...and Winchester Women
14 posted on 02/15/2004 11:21:12 AM PST by King Prout (I am coming to think that the tree of liberty is presently dying of thirst.)
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To: tet68; Mini-14; Kudsman; King Prout
Buy Lots Of Ammunition TODAY!

You know, it's ironic - a gun [or a rifle] is little more than a metal pipe with some machining. Not structurally any different than what a plumber carries with him in the back of his van.

The really dangerous stuff is the ammunition - the liberals have seen to it that you can't purchase a harmless metal pipe without an all-orifices full body search, and yet the really dangerous stuff - the ammunition for the harmless metal pipe - can be purchased over the internet by anyone with a credit card.

Idiots.

15 posted on 02/15/2004 11:25:11 AM PST by mosel-saar-ruwer
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To: tet68
Thanks. Does anyone now where I might find TOW reloads?

All kidding (am I?) aside. This is going to be a very weighty factor in my decision come November. President Bush still has my vote even after Medicare, Immigration, McCain-Feingold, 500 Billion deficit etc. I'm finding it insreasingly hard to be adding the support of my voice or treasury however. And if Mr. Bush caves to Schumer and the rest of the gungrabber crowd I will gurantee my vote will go elsewhere also.

RNC flamers save it, cause I can and do think for myself.

16 posted on 02/15/2004 11:31:41 AM PST by Kudsman (Read any good Zot's lately?)
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To: mosel-saar-ruwer
no.
"the really dangerous stuff" is the will of the operator.
Guns do not kill. Bullets do not kill. People kill.
17 posted on 02/15/2004 11:34:02 AM PST by King Prout (I am coming to think that the tree of liberty is presently dying of thirst.)
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To: King Prout
The Left may have a new tactic. Instead of some mass shooting just before the ban is to sunset, how about calling some soldier a traitor? Especially if he has had several letters to the Editor published in which he supported the right to keep and bear arms?

That way the Left gets a high profile story about "one of our own" aiding the enemy, but they also have a cut-and-dried link to gunowners.

Nah, it's too far-fetched. They could never find a story like that.

18 posted on 02/15/2004 11:45:02 AM PST by oldfart ("All governments and all civilizations fall... eventually. Our government is not immune.)
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To: oldfart
you referring to the fellah jailed up in Ft. Lewis?
19 posted on 02/15/2004 11:46:11 AM PST by King Prout (I am coming to think that the tree of liberty is presently dying of thirst.)
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To: King Prout
"the really dangerous stuff" is the will of the operator

True. But banning the metal pipe called "a gun" yet allowing the free sale of ammunition is akin to banning the wooden pipe called "a bong" yet allowing the free sale of tobacco, marijuana, hash-hish, and opium.

The metal pipe is just that - a pipe. In and of itself it doesn't pose a threat to anybody. I suppose you could use it to conk someone over the head, but a baseball bat would be at least as good for that purpose.

Hey - let's ban baseball bats!

20 posted on 02/15/2004 11:50:19 AM PST by mosel-saar-ruwer
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