Brinkley Details Kerry's Meetings with 'Hanoi Jane' (Hanoi John and Jane are both liars!)

Newsmax ^ | 2/15/04

[areafiftyone]

Presidential historian Douglas Brinkley revealed Sunday that Democratic presidential front-runner John Kerry personally met with "Hanoi Jane" Fonda at least twice during the days when the two played leading roles in the group Vietnam Veterans Against the War, including a never before detailed 1971 meeting in Detroit.

"The Jane Fonda incidents occurred in two places; one on a march from Morristown to Valley Forge when they shared a platform at Valley Forge," Brinkley told WABC Radio's Steve Malzberg.

"Then he met her in the more troubling Detroit Howard Johnson's Comfort Center [event], where there was this thing called the Winter Soldier Investigation."

It had been known that Fonda and Kerry had both helped organize the Winter Soldier protest at a time when he served as the VVAW's National Coordinator and she held the title Honorary National Coordinator.

But Brinkley, who wrote the definitive chronicle of Kerry's war years, "Tour of Duty," is the first authoritative source to suggest that Kerry and Fonda had a face-to-face meeting while organizing the event.

Brinkley's account of Kerry's contacts with Fonda suggests they had a much more extensive relationship than either of them are now willing to admit.

The activist and the top Democrat both offered accounts last week that minimized their contact during the 1970s, with Fonda describing efforts to link her to Kerry as part of a "big lie" campaign to discredit the presidential front-runner.

Of the Valley Forge protest, Fonda told CNN, "I don't know if we even shook hands."

For his part Kerry said through a spokeswoman, "John Kerry and Jane Fonda were just acquaintances."

During Winter Soldier Fonda and Kerry solicited testimony from alleged combat veterans detailing U.S. atrocities, though many of the accounts were later completely discredited.

The Kerry campaign has refused to return multiple phone calls from NewsMax requesting details of the Senator's interaction with Fonda during the Feb. 1971 Winter Soldier event.

On a related subject, Brinkley said that Kerry's Vietnam war wounds, for which he received three Purple Hearts, were not particularly serious.

Asked about the severity of Kerry's injuries, Brinkley told Malzberg, "They were minor wounds."

[Destro]

Don't weasel out. I don't even know what Liberty Post is. I have a long record on FreeRepublic and was an anti-Clark poster before he decided to run for President. What the hell where you guys doing? Wesels.

[Lancey Howard]

We shall compare coverage of this story with coverage of the bogus, fabricated-out-of-whole-cloth, "Bush was AWOL" story. The problem is that whereas the liberal newsrooms were anxious to smear Bush on behalf of their DNC masters, they will take the exact opposite approach here and downplay this story.

When the "Bush was AWOL" non-story needed "legs", the liberal newsrooms threw crutches at it for weeks. Every time the "issue" was put to rest by new testimony, new documents, and new evidence, the liberal newsrooms feigned skepticism and dreamed up (or, more likely, culled from their daily DNC talking-points fax) more "questions".

I certainly hope that Fox has the spine to give this very relevant story the "legs" it deserves. Somebody has to. It is, after all, Kerry and the Democrats who have pushed Vietnam as an "issue" 30 years after it ended.

[Destro]

someone just died. Cronkite called him an elitist.

[Destro]

Ok looked it up-they were reflecting back on Eric Sevareid's life and I assumed he died that week for them to do that.

[Lancey Howard]

The Democrats and their allies in the liberal newsrooms have understood for weeks that there is nothing to the AWOL allegations. Absolutely nothing. And all of them are chuckling to themselves in the tacit understanding that the whole thing was nothing but a carefully orchestrated smear tactic from the beginning. But that's not the point.

The point is to plant (subliminally or otherwise) into the minds of the great big barely-paying-attention chattering class across America that there are "questions" (he did something wrong, sleazy, unethical) about Bush's military service. The way to accomplish this is to keep asking the same questions (which have been answered countless times already) over and over and over again while feigning skepticism at any and all answers, evidence, documents, and testimony from eyewitness contemporaries. Then ask the same questions again. And again.

The Democrats understand that Peter Jennings will be there to help, as will Dan Rather, CNN, the New York Times, the Washington Post, etc. ad nauseum, to keep the notion alive that "questions remain" about Bush's service in the National Guard over thirty years ago.

The Democrats and their allies will keep this "story" percolating for as long as possible, until it is the template in the national psyche that Bush's military service was something less than honorable and certainly not heroic like Kerry's.

The way to defuse the story is to attack Kerry. Hard. Somehow put Kerry on the defensive. Unfortunately, it is may be too late to totally undo the damage.

[Jorge]

If Kerry wants to bring up his Vietnam service, then his activities in the antiwar movement after returning are also fair game.

Somehow I don't think Kerry is going to get much of the Vet vote.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

I didn't realize my point was unclear.

To clarify -- I detested Fonda's ravings and I protested the Viet Nam war. That does not make me schizophrenic, just judicious.

The war was waged for reasons its architects cannot define, even to this day. Fifty-thousand American sons died for what?

But Fonda perched atop some Viet Cong's artillery did not help to stop the war. She was a shill. Her boyfriend/husband was/is a drunk who lives in a $5 million house now, unemployed. They are/were/always will be phonies.

But there are no similarities between that war and 9-11.

It doesn't require a degree in history to realize this time we were attacked; or that the House of Saud, minus various malcontents, is an American filling station.

There's a struggle going on for top-dog, a spot we've exclusively occupied for 50 years.

God help us if we slip to #2.

[Lancey Howard]

Welcome, newbie.
I think I heard that that scumbag Kerry was grazed in the rear-end by a 10-year-old Vietnamese girl while he was running away. Have you heard that?

[KQQL]

"Kerry indicated he might eventually back gay marriages if a public consensus developed for them," Brownstein Notes.
http://www.massinsider.com/archives/001261.phtml

[Lancey Howard]

Thatnks for the recap about "war hero" John Kerry.

[arasina]

Here's one paragraph of a review of Douglas Brinkley's book by The Weekly Standard that may provide some insight:

Another common attribute of the presidential historian is toadyism--an admiration for his subject that sooner or later puddles into sycophancy, especially if the subject has agreeable politics. Here again, Schlesinger showed the way, though Beschloss, Dallek, and the others seem intent on outdoing even the author of "Robert Kennedy and His Times" in their willingness to glorify their subjects. Brinkley must be aware of the danger. At several different points in "Tour of Duty" he asserts that this is his book, not Kerry's; the clear implication is that it is a work of cold-eyed history rather than political advocacy or personal puffery. The bulk of the book involves long, detailed accounts of Kerry's adventures as commander of a "Swift boat" during the Vietnam war. "The narrative is based largely on journals and correspondence Kerry kept while on his tours of duty," Brinkley writes at the book's opening. "He, however, exerted no editorial control on the manuscript."

SOURCE LINK: Tour of Duty: John Kerry and the Vietnam War

[jpsb]

We are not.

[ducks1944]

You are so right what he did when my brother was still there fighting is what matters to me. My brother did 2 tours of duty in Vietnam. And Kerry spent 4 months and came home protected and he want us to believe it did not hurt the SOLDIER still fighting there. Its no wonder he had nightmares after Vietnam. John McCain said they used Kerry's protecting against our POW's. You are so right when say Kerry is a turn-coat.