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A 'systems guy's' smugness gets downsized
Houston Chronicle ^ | February 15, 2004 | Tom Glass

Posted on 02/15/2004 7:37:16 AM PST by akron

My company laid off three people on my floor last week as part of a 3 percent domestic layoff of systems workers. The one that hit me the hardest was the competent, 50-year-old Vietnam veteran with decades of tenure just five years shy of getting medical retirement benefits. His son is currently serving in Iraq.

We are told that this is the first of an unspecified amount (but rumored to be two-thirds) of offshoring of computer work. Offshoring replaces Americans with overseas workers earning three-fourths to five-sixths less. Estimates are that millions of upper-middle-class, educated American systems workers -- the people who helped make the personal computer and Internet revolutions -- are going to lose our jobs.

Most of the systems folks I know are free-market and free-trade oriented. It was freedom to innovate and trade, after all, that fueled the information revolution we benefited by over the last two decades. It was overseas manufacturing of computer components that drove down the costs of the hardware we use in our jobs every day. We realize that the falling prices at Wal-Mart are the benefits of globalization.

As a systems guy, I was pretty smug about globalization. I saw what I considered to be old-fashioned and less-educated manufacturing folks losing their jobs and consoled myself that they could change jobs to something more lucrative and more fun, like computers. The numbers proved it. While American manufacturing workers lost their jobs, employment and income statistics rose and people shifted into cool service sectors.

We in systems are flexible and always learning to stay one step ahead. (I have survived lay-offs from oil service, a space job when the Challenger crashed and a previous systems job.) But we are not prepared for this massive evaporation of jobs ahead. We believed the promise that working to educate ourselves would ensure that we could handle change. After all, we were the agents who changed other people's lives, not vice-versa.

It's ironic that the very Internet that we created is creating the demise of the American systems profession.

How will we react politically? Certainly, the Democrats are already claiming to feel our pain. Should we abandon the Republicans, who matched our more dynamic, market-oriented vision of our future?

I think most of us are sophisticated enough to realize that not only will attempts by government to stop corporations from moving jobs overseas not work, they will end up harming more than helping. Just as railroads and the telegraph fundamentally changed the way people earned a living in the 19th century, the Internet and its ability to connect us globally is changing radically the way we work in the 21st.

This fundamental change is different from before, though. At least in the 19th century, American small shop operators could get jobs by moving to work for big corporations. Now, the jobs being created by the Internet transformation are in other countries. Even new jobs created by the demand from foreign workers' rising salaries will translate primarily into low-wage manufacturing jobs overseas.

Most of us do not begrudge people in other countries the opportunity to benefit themselves. We realize that in the long run, as foreign economies improve, we can all get wealthier together in a global trading system. But that won't make the short run any less painful. And the "short run" may last a rocky decade or two. Offshoring is causing this "no-job" recovery.

A co-worker cynically posted this quote from President Bush: "As technology transforms the way almost every job in America is done, America must become more productive and workers need new skills." This outrageous quote assumes that re-training (and even worse, government-funded training) is a solution. We did get trained! But learning as fast or faster than other professions is now irrelevant. Will any training guarantee that equally trained foreign workers won't underbid our labor price?

Educated workers seemingly now have to compete on price globally. The person willing to work for the lowest wage wins. If that is the game, I want government to squeeze every bit of the costs it imposes so that I can maintain a decent living at low rates required by global competition. If we can suffer layoff after layoff, so should government.

U.S. government -- at all levels -- is headed in the wrong direction. In its last session, The Republican-controlled Texas Legislature could not even bring itself to cap growth of property taxes to 5 percent. And I laughed in disgust when I heard President Bush talking proudly about a goal of slowing the rate of growth of spending to only 4 percent. We need drastic cuts, not slowed growth while our incomes plummet.

But we systems folks are adaptable and innovative. Maybe we can find ways to create new jobs with new technologies. Nanotechnology holds tremendous promise, although it may be slow to arrive. Because we need to get to market with innovations as rapidly as we can, government needs to remove regulations.

Historically, Americans dominated economically because of our low governmental burden. Now, other countries have discovered that secret, and are creating smaller government drags than our ever growing monster.

I doubt that we systems folks are going to support Democrats who promise to eliminate our pain by giving us handouts. But the Republicans had better start delivering lower spending, taxes and regulations. Or we will find others who will.

Glass has 20 years' experience working with computers in Houston.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: biggovernment; downsizing; outsourcing; trade
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But the Republicans had better start delivering lower spending, taxes and regulations. Or we will find others who will.

That says it all and everybody in Washington better pay attention or come the day after Election Day, they will be saying "What happened?"

1 posted on 02/15/2004 7:37:16 AM PST by akron
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To: akron
Seems like a good place to recall an old Jim Traficant speech from 97.

FAST TRACK IS A JOB LOSER FOR AMERICA'S WORKERS
November 6, 1997
Mr. Speaker, to pass fast track the President said he will expand job retraining and unemployment counseling by $1.2 billion. Unbelievable. The reason is very simple: More Americans will lose their jobs on yet another fast track.

To be more specific here, fast track is a loser, a job loser for American workers. What are we retraining these workers to do? How many more pantyhose crotch closer jobs are really out there, Mr. Speaker? Beam me up.

It is time to stand up and stop this madness. American workers do not want unemployment compensation, they do not want retraining, they do not want trade adjustment assistance. They want to keep their jobs and take care of their families.

2 posted on 02/15/2004 7:40:47 AM PST by cripplecreek (you win wars by making the other dumb SOB die for his country)
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To: akron
The one that hit me the hardest was the competent, 50-year-old Vietnam veteran with decades of tenure just five years shy of getting medical retirement benefits.

I hate to tell this guy, but most companies don’t offer retiree medical benefits. It’s something you’re going to have to pay for out of your pension check – which you should be vested in with “decades of tenure.” You are eligible for MediCare at 65 though. I guess he’s worried about coverage between 55 and 65.

And those companies that do offer retiree health benefits usually have a lifetime cap. But the notion that you’re going to retire and get off scott-free on healthcare is a fallacy, mostly. Always has been, unless you were grandfathered in somehow.

3 posted on 02/15/2004 7:53:39 AM PST by Who dat?
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To: akron
But the Republicans had better start delivering lower spending, taxes and regulations. Or we will find others who will.

Nah, this won't happen. The reverse is the future. Remember that half of the population has a less than median IQ. The idiot population, a clear voting majority, believes in Government, and expects politicians to come to their rescue when they cannot pay their bills. Some rough times are coming.

Bottom line is that you and I are not going to get a laissez faire government, but the reverse.

4 posted on 02/15/2004 7:55:40 AM PST by Iris7 ("Duty, Honor, Country". The first of these is Duty, and is known only through His Grace)
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To: Rhys Ifans
Thats why i posted the Traficant speech. in 97 he was saying the same thing to a democratic president. Democrats assume conservatives are too stupid to recognize this.
6 posted on 02/15/2004 7:57:56 AM PST by cripplecreek (you win wars by making the other dumb SOB die for his country)
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To: Iris7
unfortunately you're probably right....
7 posted on 02/15/2004 8:00:10 AM PST by akron
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To: Who dat?; Flyer; dix; bobbyd; humblegunner; Eaker; PetroniDE; Xenalyte; Allegra; pax_et_bonum; ...
Why does this revelation from the Houston Comical not surprise me...

Oh yeah...I remember...hehehe (not really)

Betcha I know what company this is...And it ain't Enron...

Later,
Steve
8 posted on 02/15/2004 8:01:09 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans)
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To: cripplecreek
Reducing government is the top priority; Republicans must walk the walk or prepare for massive defections to a new party.

Our problems have their root in our manipulated currency. The Federal Reserve is engaged in wholesale theft of national resources. The ultimate consequence is inflation and migration of jobs overseas. But Conservatives are dumbstruck, silent, and ignore this obvious source of the problem. Why?

Our best long-term interests are served by opening borders in the Americas. The opportunities in doing this far ouweigh the short- to mid-term dislocation caused by having people cross the border, competing for specific jobs. The Americas were colonized by adventurers. That was true 15,000 years ago, 500 years ago, and should remain true now. It's pathetic that this author whines over the "need to retrain." Of course he/we need that. In spite of his good views on the need for goverrnment reduction, if he thinks as a system program he deserves a safe job, then he's just wrong.



9 posted on 02/15/2004 8:04:05 AM PST by Tax Government
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To: cripplecreek
Thats why i posted the Traficant speech. in 97 he was saying the same thing to a democratic president.

And what did they do to reward him?

Sent him to the slammer, they did!

10 posted on 02/15/2004 8:05:49 AM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (I don't believe anything a Democrat says. Bill Clinton set the standard!)
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To: akron
Everyone should think how this will play out. The democrats will promise anything to get your vote, but once they start getting money from big corporations, who do you think they are going to choose. Republicans are no different, except they are not promising to keep your job here. Big business will send money to the ones in power. They have no loyalty to anyone. Thats just the way it is. I've been in IT for 25 years and now I'm selling real estate. Anyone want to buy some property?
11 posted on 02/15/2004 8:06:55 AM PST by grb
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To: stevie_d_64
Steve, since you're from Houston, you surely can't believe that Republicans believe in small government do you? Instead of one law enforcement agency, the Commissioners fund 9 (Sheriff and 8 Constables). When Bob Eckels first was elected, he said that he would at least consolidate all the dispatch functions to prevent duplication of effort. That was what, 10 years ago, and he stil hasn't done anything.

How about the policy of allowing people to retire, and then remain on the county payroll as consultants? Wesley Friese "retired" from the toll road authority where he was making 150K. Now he collects his pension and is a consultant making 210K.

It hasn't hit the papers because the County stays under the radar but the budget director Raycraft got a 70K raise. Most of the other appointees also have received 30-50K raises. Maybe you should read court agenda now and then.

Paul Bettencourt always rags on the city of Houston for spending money but is silent about the County. Did you notice when the "Comical" ran the story about the County have a 270million surplus, Bettencourt "wasn't available" to comment on whether or not taxes should be cut.

Republicans for small government, look in your own backyard to see that's not true.

12 posted on 02/15/2004 8:14:52 AM PST by akron
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To: akron; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; Jhoffa_; FITZ; arete; FreedomPoster; Red Jones; Pyro7480; ...
Maybe we can find ways to create new jobs with new technologies. Nanotechnology holds tremendous promise, although it may be slow to arrive.

Yes, China is getting ready.

13 posted on 02/15/2004 8:17:14 AM PST by A. Pole (pay no attention to the man behind the curtain , the hand of free market must be invisible)
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To: akron
We've just survived a post-bubble recession and a slow, jobless recovery. It's amazing that the damage was not a lot worse (ie. that most of us kept our jobs and our lifestyles intact). Now there is strong evidence that the economy is taking off and years of understaffing will reverse with a hiring binge by corporate america.

I remind you that no clever person is ever without options and without hope. During the big layoff days immediately post-Y2k Houston was a hotspot of new business formation as systems guys and gals took their severance packages and founded new businesses--still the ultimate of the American dream.

14 posted on 02/15/2004 8:17:37 AM PST by DJtex
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To: akron
But the Republicans had better start delivering lower spending, taxes and regulations. Or we will find others who will.

Unfortunately, we won't. We will continue, as always, to accept the candidates offered us and vote for them because they are not democrats. The complacent and disinterested outnumber us.
15 posted on 02/15/2004 8:18:54 AM PST by kenth (This is not a tagline. You, sir, are hallucinating.)
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To: Iris7
Remember that half of the population has a less than median IQ. The idiot population, a clear voting majority, believes in Government, and expects politicians to come to their rescue when they cannot pay their bills.

Hey, they are not idiots (it would be well below 70 IQ). This "idiot" majority is intelligent enough to know that they cannot compete with 100 million of Indian and Chinese with IQ higher than 125.

Why free traders think that it is OK to use government to protect their profits but it is not OK to help their compatriots?

16 posted on 02/15/2004 8:23:06 AM PST by A. Pole (pay no attention to the man behind the curtain , the hand of free market must be invisible)
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To: akron
There are always service sector jobs i.e. McDonalds. In the alternative one can always set up one's own business such as cutting lawns, sweeping floors, shining the shoes of the politician, the illegal alien and sports figures. If one learns to sing and tap dance shoe shine patrons will tip heavily.
17 posted on 02/15/2004 8:23:28 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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To: Texas_Dawg
ping
18 posted on 02/15/2004 8:23:46 AM PST by null and void (There's no such thing as a bad tax cut)
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To: akron
There are a lot of non-systems people reading this thread right now. Very few people are comprehending this situation, but this is not about computer programmers. Any job which deals with data that can be digitized will be outsourced within this decade. There will still be jobs, but there are going to be massive losses of professional jobs and a serious wage deflation.
19 posted on 02/15/2004 8:24:00 AM PST by thedugal (I am a genious.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
There are always service sector jobs i.e. McDonalds.

AKA: "The jobs Americans won't do..."

20 posted on 02/15/2004 8:25:11 AM PST by null and void (There's no such thing as a bad tax cut)
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