How Well Did He Serve?

Time Magazine On Line ^ | February 15,2004 | Michael Duffy

[facedown]

What a pathetic pile of drivel.

[RockDoc]

You forgot "BARF ALERT" in your title.

[John W]

Sorry.I thought "Time Magazine" would suffice.

[TADSLOS]

Some Guard veterans have speculated that Bush may have been dodging random drug tests, which were instituted in some military units as early as 1971. But there is no evidence to support that; in fact, the dentist who worked on Bush's teeth and who later became the commander of the base medical unit, told TIME that the Alabama Guard did not conduct random drug tests until the 1980s.

So why bring it up if it unless to sow seeds of suspicion? What a vile piece of crap this "reporter" is.

[NetValue]

Another hatchet-job from Time. I do not subscribe for this very reason. I used to subscribe before Ted Turner got on the board.....but things have changed in the war between Americans and liberals....not one cent to liberal causes anymore. Talk about a vast left wing conspiracy.

[The_Media_never_lie]

Sorry.I thought "Time Magazine" would suffice.

You needn't say more.

[PROUDAMREP]

You surely meant to post this on another forum. The extent to which the so-called news media will go to discredit President Bush has become laughable. You guys just keep talking about this until November.

This is the mode of operation for the dims. If you can't find anything creditable, make something up and beat it to death. Only uninformed sheeples will believe this crap.

[Neets]

Skimming the surface and skipping over details may be business as usual for a happy-go-lucky 26-year-old, but it's a problem for a President during a winter of discontent. Whether Bush performed his National Guard duties while he was working on the Blount campaign—as well as during much of the year starting in May 1972—was raised in his past campaigns and always fluttered away quickly, an issue regarded as irrelevant after two decades or more. But it has become germane this time in a way it never was before because for the second time in as many months—first on prewar intelligence in Iraq and now on his military record—Bush is caught in a gap between what he has claimed and what he can prove. At the same time, he's gearing up for a fight with a probable Democratic nominee whose record as a Vietnam War hero helps buy him credibility to challenge Bush on his military resume. Bush insists he did his duty in Alabama, but the records—and many memories—don't confirm it. And these days, people are paying a lot closer attention to the President's words.

Sadly, I can't remember which FOX show I was watching last evening, and who was commenting, but when asked about why the increased and repeated attention about the NG records, the commentator emphatically stated the Dem agenda in this is to question, now and forever afterwards, in the 04 campaign, President Bush's "INTEGRITY"...did he lie to us now, as he did then...

So it's not so much an issue of whether he was AWOL, but more of an issue of why he is deceptive.....that's the campaign agenda of the Dems for 04

Bush should beat them all with the bottom of his shoe.

[ChadGore]

Bush was "nobody" in 1972, and could work with my at my job every single day, and I wouldn't find him remarkable.

Q: Was he the son of someone famous? No.
A: GHWB(his dad) was then just a lowly congressman in a Texas legislature.

[John W]

No,actually I meant to post it here.Many folks post articles and information from "the other side".It helps to see what you're up against.

[suzyq5558]

Iam sick to death of this drivel. I pray that karma wheel smacks all these pathetic buttwipes right upside thier pathetic heads. give it a rest already. everyone is sick of hearing about it.

[YaYa123]

Duffy's stink piece has already been discredited by Deborah Orin, NEW YORK POST.

[68skylark]

Reported by Frank Sikora/Birmingham, Cathy Booth Thomas/Dallas, Jackson Baker/Memphis, Mike Billips/Montgomery and John F. Dickerson and Mark Thompson/Washington

I wonder how much military experience these writers have. Does anyone know how we could find out? I'm guessing it's zip, zero, nada.

[The Great RJ]

Gee, our last president lied to avoid the draft and then went to Europe and lead anti-US protests there. Nooo... problem nothing to see here.

Bush did what a lot of people did in the early 1970's --served in the National Guard rather than be drafted and go to Viet Nam. Many of my friends did the same particularly those whose draft lottery numbers were low. Did he use family connections to get a more cushy Guard assignment?--probably, but so did anyone else who had connections. No one seems to mind that Al Gore used his connections to get a relatively cushy journalists assignment in 'Nam.

The hypocracy of the media on this issue just screams.

[LadyDoc]

Some Guard veterans have speculated that Bush may have been dodging random drug tests, which were instituted in some military units as early as 1971.

Random drug tests on National Guard units didn't start until the mid 1980's. And they were random, unannounced.

The only time my urine was "tested" was my physical in the late 1980's, and since I had just had major surgery, and had received narcotic pain medications, they decided to omit it.

Scheduled drug testing is ridiculous: You just stay clean for awhile, take a herb to block the THC part of the test, or borrow someone else's urine.

However, pilots do take drug testing. However, Bush's "drug" was alcohol, which clears in 24 hours--which is why alcohol is forbidden up to 24 hours prior to testing.

Drug tests for meth and cocaine were NOT common in the 1970's, and indeed, Amphetemines were not considered "drugs" until truckers wrecked too many trucks from taking Amphetamines to stay awake, again in the early 1970's. So which "drug test" was Bush supposed to have missed?

[Western Phil]

"Michael Duffy, Frank Sikora/Birmingham, Cathy Booth Thomas/Dallas, Jackson Baker/Memphis, Mike Billips/Montgomery and John F. Dickerson and Mark Thompson/Washington"

These people are not interested in having anyone know the Ten Commandments - there is one in that says "Thou shalt not bear false witness againgst thy neighbor."

The language may a little quaint, but the meaning is clear. Might make them uncomfortable if they have to think about it a little.

[laconic]

For every one that used his "connections" to get in the NG and avoid Vietnam service, someone else went in their stead. It wasn't a decision without implications, often deadly, for others. I hope those that did use their connections to save their own tails spend a minute or two thinking about it sometime, in the quiet of their family homes that their replacements never had.

[pabianice]

Lying bastards. They have gone out of their way yo misunderstand and misrepresent Reserve/Guard service. I served 28 years in the Navy and Naval Reserve and let me assure you that resched drills, drills at other stations, and service and AT for the convenience of the military are the rule, not the exception. Beyond that, missing a flight physical is so common as to approach being the rule rather than the exception.

Time Magazine is simply a cabal of lying, dispeptic, invideous Liberals who will do and say anything to hurt Bush.

If they weren't suc h scumbags, they'd be all over Kerry about his treasonous activities with Communist groups. But no, they have their lying agenda.

[SkyPilot]

Th divide between the liberal media and normal people is now a chasm.